Women's Worlds

On Saturday, January 11, 2020 at 10:17:27 AM UTC-8, wrote:
In modern social context (which recognizes gender equality and gender fluidity), having "woman"-only contests sure seems like an anachronistic continuation of a sexist notion, regardless of justification.

The fact that this particular person "kicks ass...all the time" kinda proves the point, no?

Exactly my point.

It is not my intent to spam this thread though. But since you replied and seem to feel the same way as I do, then....

Maybe the WC format could be changed, and each country entering would need a man and woman for each category of competition? Just an initial thought. Maybe this would be difficult to implement, and not worth any problems it creates.

Anyway, back to the original theme, Go USA, continue to fly safely and quickly.
Best of luck and safe flights to all the teams in those extreme conditions.

Respectfully,

Chris

On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 10:17:25 -0800, rcornay wrote:

In modern social context (which recognizes gender equality and gender
fluidity), having "woman"-only contests sure seems like an anachronistic
continuation of a sexist notion, regardless of justification.

The fact that this particular person "kicks ass...all the time" kinda
proves the point, no?

FWIW, in another, not unrelated sport - Free Flight model flying - there
have never been any separate male and female competitions at the
continental and world level, though there have been several very good
ladies flying F1B (rubber powered) as well as currently some very
competent young Russian ones flying F1C (IC engine powered - the biggest
and most complex FF class). I wouldn't be surprised to see them in a
Russian WC team in the next year or two.


--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

Women are just as good as men.

Katrin Senne was in second place after both the 8th and the 9th day of the 2018 18m World Championship in Hosin, Czech Republic (not the Women's World Championship, but the World Championship). After the 9th day she was only 5 points out of first -- 7622 vs. 7617.

She was team flying with several other JS3's, and all of them landed out the 10th day. She ended up 8th in the contest.

The reason for separate women's contests in gliding is the same as the reason you have sailing clubs for women. It is to encourage them to enter a traditionally male-dominated sport. It is the same reason you might have a male-only knitting club.

At 19:02 11 January 2020, Chris Behm wrote:
On Saturday, January 11, 2020 at 10:17:27 AM UTC-8,
wrote:
In modern social context (which recognizes gender equality and
gender
fluidity), having "woman"-only contests sure seems like an
anachronistic
continuation of a sexist notion, regardless of justification.

The fact that this particular person "kicks ass...all the time" kinda
proves the point, no?

Exactly my point.

It is not my intent to spam this thread though. But since you
replied and
seem to feel the same way as I do, then....

Maybe the WC format could be changed, and each country entering
would need
a man and woman for each category of competition? Just an initial
thought.
Maybe this would be difficult to implement, and not worth any
problems it
creates.

Anyway, back to the original theme, Go USA, continue to fly safely
and
quickly.
Best of luck and safe flights to all the teams in those extreme

In the UK inter club league we have 3 class of pilot
Novice
intermediate
Pundit.
to allow for different skill/experience of the pilot
BUT I don't see gender as being relevant selection .




conditions.

Respectfully,

Chris

"It is the same reason you might have a male-only knitting club."

The parallel analogy is: The Men's World Knitting Contest.

('fraid some things just don't make a whole lotta sense, no matter how you present it...)

If the French competitor Aude Untersee had not got a zero on the first day, things would look rather different at the top, she got 1000 before being zeroed out on the first day, and has flown brilliantly since.

On Saturday, January 11, 2020 at 3:38:18 PM UTC-8, Charlie Quebec wrote:
If the French competitor Aude Untersee had not got a zero on the first day, things would look rather different at the top, she got 1000 before being zeroed out on the first day, and has flown brilliantly since.

Thanks for putting it back on track!
Jim

On Saturday, January 11, 2020 at 4:30:47 PM UTC-8, JS wrote:
On Saturday, January 11, 2020 at 3:38:18 PM UTC-8, Charlie Quebec wrote:
If the French competitor Aude Untersee had not got a zero on the first day, things would look rather different at the top, she got 1000 before being zeroed out on the first day, and has flown brilliantly since.

Thanks for putting it back on track!
Jim

But now I've looked into it, 1000 points wasn't going to be hers anyway. Perhaps just below Sarah?
Jim

This has turned into a CLASSIC off the rails RAS thread, good job boys!

I feel Aude Untersee's pain of getting a zero on day one.

Some will remember in Nephi a few years back after a navigation error I got a first day score of negative 100. Fly all day and wind up below zero.
That will deflate your balloon.
Had a couple beers after that brilliant maneuver.

Good Luck to the US Team ! I hope they have a fine finish!

On Sunday, January 12, 2020 at 7:15:33 AM UTC-8, Nick Kennedy wrote:
This has turned into a CLASSIC off the rails RAS thread, good job boys!

I feel Aude Untersee's pain of getting a zero on day one.

Some will remember in Nephi a few years back after a navigation error I got a first day score of negative 100. Fly all day and wind up below zero.
That will deflate your balloon.
Had a couple beers after that brilliant maneuver.

Good Luck to the US Team ! I hope they have a fine finish!

You have to land in a lake to get remembered, navigation errors are hardly memorable in they are over the Nevada test range. (that was an interesting story)