Why airplanes fly

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Like it or not there are loons and trolls on the Internet.

Well, I don't like it, and it's my right to say so, and do what I can to get
rid of them too. Unfortunately, there are a bunch of dickwads that enjoy
egging him on. If it were not for them, the trolls would have been long
gone.

The Internet has no law enforcement, not much content enforcement --
and I LIKE it that way. If there's a brawl, so be it. It's not like
you can't ignore that. There are plenty of tools to help you filter
out anything you don't want to see.

Yep, I can ignore it, like I will soon be ignoring you, I guess. You are
missing the point, though.

There used to be about three times the number of really cool, well qualified
people, that could speak volumes on the subjects of aviation. They didn't
think it was worth sticking around, and are now gone. Now do you really
want to tell me how all I have to do is ignore the kooks? It will really be
just as good as it was, before one nut came in, and brough a bunch of other
nuts that like picking on nuts like him, and around and around we go with
far less people that can really talk aviation? That's what you want to tell
me? I don't think so.

I come here because there ARE people who I think have a high level of
experience with piloting and I like asking them questions. I listen to
what they say and I learn from it. I don't have many opinions, usually
just questions.

You would have really loved it, a couple years ago, then. There is but a
small sampling of people with the varied experiences that are still here,
compared to before. It is really sad that a few nut cases can cause so much
chaos.

But I'm sticking to this opinion: I get an occasional laugh out of
Mx's postulating and theorizing.

Yep, laugh, laugh, laugh. I suppose you think Jackass TV is pretty damn
funny, too.

Sad, man. Really sad.

Grow up.
--
Jim in NC

No sweat. Forget it. No harm done. Just be advised I have a Pavlov
reaction to smilies. When inserted, there is no mistaking the good
intent of a post. I use them all the time :-)

--
Dudley Henriques-

Okay, I hear you.

I have to use them all the time at work, lest these misunderstandings
cause big problems.

On Feb 8, 12:32 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Hilton wrote:
Dudley wrote:
This not only denies Welsh his credit due, but will eventually, as history
sorts it all out, blot the life of Yeager as well.

IMHO, Yaeger's life is already blotted after what he said immediately after
Scott Crossfield's accident. So many options, so many good opportunities to
say good things about a great man, but he chose the tasteless route. Pity.

Hilton

I couldn't agree more, and this was just one more nail in the coffin
that defines why I can't take Yeager.

Yeager came out here to an Air Show at Wanaka where he was asked by a
young TVNZ reporter as to how he could take up flying .
The reply was so arrogant and insulting Yeager suddenly was not at the
Air Show.

But I'm sticking to this opinion: I get an occasional laugh out of
Mx's postulating and theorizing.

Just to keep things straight, I did not write the above.. There should have
been 's in front of that comment; written by the previous poster.

wrote:
No sweat. Forget it. No harm done. Just be advised I have a Pavlov
reaction to smilies. When inserted, there is no mistaking the good
intent of a post. I use them all the time :-)

--
Dudley Henriques-

Okay, I hear you.

I have to use them all the time at work, lest these misunderstandings
cause big problems.

The stuff comes at you fast on Usenet. Lots of personalities
interacting at the same time.
Whenever I'm not absolutely certain my tone will be taken the right way
I always use those damn smilies. They're stupid looking I admit, but
they serve me a very useful purpose. People seldom mistake my intent.

--
Dudley Henriques

Hold on, for a second. Previously on this very thread you posted this
comment:

I don't come here for conflict.

But then you write these things:

Yep, I can ignore it, like I will soon be ignoring you *
...
Yep, laugh, laugh, laugh. I suppose you think Jackass TV is pretty damn
funny, too.

Sad, man. Really sad.

Grow up.

You can't write those things and at the same time honestly claim you
don't come here for conflict. Every one of us is sometimes guilty of
being provocative and rude, or write something that someone else
misinterprets, or we misinterpret what someone else writes. There's
really no way to misinterpret what you have written above. It's not
about aviation. What I quote above shows that you are just as capable
of dishing out confrontation as you are capable of complaining about
it.

There used to be about three times the number of really cool, well qualified
people, that could speak volumes on the subjects of aviation. *They didn't
think it was worth sticking around, and are now gone.

You would have really loved it, a couple years ago, then. There is but a
small sampling of people with the varied experiences that are still here,
compared to before.

I can't guess as to why those people don't post here anymore. But,
yeah, I would have thought it was cool and I would have liked to read
their posts.

*It is really sad that a few nut cases can cause so much
chaos.

I have never seen Usenet not have a lot of off topic posts by nut
cases, or trolls being pests. I'm surely way more interested in the
good stuff than the ridiculous and the distracting.

However I also think it's okay if some people get a laugh out of the
occasional loon. I'm not calling you a jackass just because you don't
like chaotic posts. However it sure seems you are calling me a jackass
by your non-confrontational comments about Jackass TV.

Let's get back to planes and piloting now.

george wrote:
On Feb 8, 12:32 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Hilton wrote:
Dudley wrote:
This not only denies Welsh his credit due, but will eventually, as history
sorts it all out, blot the life of Yeager as well.
IMHO, Yaeger's life is already blotted after what he said immediately after
Scott Crossfield's accident. So many options, so many good opportunities to
say good things about a great man, but he chose the tasteless route. Pity.
Hilton
I couldn't agree more, and this was just one more nail in the coffin
that defines why I can't take Yeager.

Yeager came out here to an Air Show at Wanaka where he was asked by a
young TVNZ reporter as to how he could take up flying .
The reply was so arrogant and insulting Yeager suddenly was not at the
Air Show.










I deal directly in the demonstration flying flight safety business every
day and interact with some of the finest pilots on the planet. Some of
these young people could fly rings around Yeager even in his prime. They
are world champions.
Almost every one of these people to a man/woman, are totally dedicated
not only to saving lives, but to furthering the general cause of
aviation. These professionals interact on their own time and dime.
The contrast between these people and someone like Yeager is astounding.
You couldn't ask to work with finer pilots anywhere....anytime.
Yeager could have been a loud voice for aviation. Apparently his voice
is loud enough....but it's all about him, not about aviation.

--
Dudley Henriques

Morgans wrote:
Speaking of missing regulars, what's up with Montblack? Is he taking a
break, or does anyone know what became of him?

Remember my previous post about Jay's night clerk socking for him?

Speaking of missing regulars, what's up with Montblack? Is he taking a
break, or does anyone know what became of him?

We just celebrated his birthday last weekend, and I asked him the same
question.

Bottom line: Same thing you're saying. The trolls are winning.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

but when a
small-but-determined group of trolls with (seemingly endless) time on
their
hands takes a hankering to a group, it's obvious that they can destroy it
pretty easily.

That appears to be their stated agenda:

http://www.gwu.edu/~trivia/meow.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meow_Wars

Interesting history. Sad to see this sort of thing has happened many times.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"