WGC2012 Uvalde Scoring

I am just wondering what the closer details of the following are
in the Scoring 18m Class Day 8
RB is scored at 35.9km due to Hazardous Maneuvre. Must have been
serious??

Would appreciate a tip on where you are finding the results.
The "Official" site is showing "Warning: Number of competition pilots
launched is zero "
Thanks

On Tuesday, 14 August 2012 08:01:54 UTC-5, Muttley wrote:
I am just wondering what the closer details of the following are

in the Scoring 18m Class Day 8

RB is scored at 35.9km due to Hazardous Maneuvre. Must have been

serious??

I encourage you to down load the flight log and perform the analysis.

Ron Gleason

On Aug 14, 10:05*am, Ron Gleason wrote:
On Tuesday, 14 August 2012 08:01:54 UTC-5, Muttley *wrote:
I am just wondering what the closer details of the following are

in the Scoring 18m Class Day 8

RB is scored at 35.9km due to Hazardous Maneuvre. Must have been

serious??

I encourage you to down load the flight log and perform the analysis.

Ron Gleason

I see a 500' zoomie.

On 08/14/2012 9:45 AM, RN wrote:
Would appreciate a tip on where you are finding the results.
The "Official" site is showing "Warning: Number of competition pilots
launched is zero "
Thanks

The scores are posted on Naviter's Soaring Spot web page

http://soaringspot.com/wgc20112/results/

Cheers,
Luke Szczepaniak

Evan says:

I see a 500' zoomie.

What is a "zoomie" and what's so bad about it?

On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:26:02 PM UTC-5, soartech wrote:
Evan says:



I see a 500' zoomie.



What is a "zoomie" and what's so bad about it?

I'm assuming he finished 500' below the finish cylinder edge and zoomed up to kill speed and gain altitude for getting to the pattern. In previous tasks they've declared a 15k cylinder with a 3,000ft minimum altitude base. They do this because weather had forecasted a gust front from approaching T-storms to the north of Uvalde. They want to give the pilot the option to get a valid finish then break off a glide to the airport should the gusts get strong. The breakoff would then be a decision to landout or go to another air strip. Hitting the 15k cylinder and keeping yourself at 3,000agl+ is tricky as most have never done final glides to a target like that. The "zoomie" is dangerous at any finish cylinder because you're zooming up at what might be the majority of gliders finishing above the floor limit. Hence the penalty points.

On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:51:22 PM UTC-5, BobD wrote:
On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:26:02 PM UTC-5, soartech wrote: Evan says: I see a 500' zoomie. What is a "zoomie" and what's so bad about it? I'm assuming he finished 500' below the finish cylinder edge and zoomed up to kill speed and gain altitude for getting to the pattern. In previous tasks they've declared a 15k cylinder with a 3,000ft minimum altitude base. They do this because weather had forecasted a gust front from approaching T-storms to the north of Uvalde. They want to give the pilot the option to get a valid finish then break off a glide to the airport should the gusts get strong. The breakoff would then be a decision to landout or go to another air strip. Hitting the 15k cylinder and keeping yourself at 3,000agl+ is tricky as most have never done final glides to a target like that.. The "zoomie" is dangerous at any finish cylinder because you're zooming up at what might be the majority of gliders finishing above the floor limit. Hence the penalty points.

the dangerous action was at 15:24, about 14 minutes after he started.

On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:57:31 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:51:22 PM UTC-5, BobD wrote:

On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:26:02 PM UTC-5, soartech wrote: Evan says: I see a 500' zoomie. What is a "zoomie" and what's so bad about it? I'm assuming he finished 500' below the finish cylinder edge and zoomed up to kill speed and gain altitude for getting to the pattern. In previous tasks they've declared a 15k cylinder with a 3,000ft minimum altitude base. They do this because weather had forecasted a gust front from approaching T-storms to the north of Uvalde. They want to give the pilot the option to get a valid finish then break off a glide to the airport should the gusts get strong. The breakoff would then be a decision to landout or go to another air strip. Hitting the 15k cylinder and keeping yourself at 3,000agl+ is tricky as most have never done final glides to a target like that. The "zoomie" is dangerous at any finish cylinder because you're zooming up at what might be the majority of gliders finishing above the floor limit. Hence the penalty points.



the dangerous action was at 15:24, about 14 minutes after he started.

They of course will penalize the low finish zoom up. But maybe they're looking at files and if they determine a serious zoom up into a thermal--and someone cries foul for a near miss, then maybe they tag that. I dunno beyond that.

On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 4:57:31 PM UTC-4, Tony wrote:
On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:51:22 PM UTC-5, BobD wrote: On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:26:02 PM UTC-5, soartech wrote: Evan says: I see a 500' zoomie. What is a "zoomie" and what's so bad about it? I'm assuming he finished 500' below the finish cylinder edge and zoomed up to kill speed and gain altitude for getting to the pattern. In previous tasks they've declared a 15k cylinder with a 3,000ft minimum altitude base. They do this because weather had forecasted a gust front from approaching T-storms to the north of Uvalde. They want to give the pilot the option to get a valid finish then break off a glide to the airport should the gusts get strong. The breakoff would then be a decision to landout or go to another air strip. Hitting the 15k cylinder and keeping yourself at 3,000agl+ is tricky as most have never done final glides to a target like that. The "zoomie" is dangerous at any finish cylinder because you're zooming up at what might be the majority of gliders finishing above the floor limit. Hence the penalty points. the dangerous action was at 15:24, about 14 minutes after he started.

This is consistent with a very agressive pull up into a thermal, likely occupied by a gaggle, and triggering a safety complaint, followed by appropriate invesygation and review.
Speculation on my part.
Bet this calms things down quick
UH