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Old November 24th 06, 05:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Pipistrel Kit Aircraft now FAA 51% Accepted

Greetings all, the Pipistrel Sinus and Virus aircraft have been
inspected over the last couple of days and have been accepted by the
FAA is a 51% accepted kit.

This means that any customers purchasing these aircraft as kits do not
have to worry about certification themselves as it has already been
completed. More information will be forthcoming in the next few weeks
where we also hope to advise you of our success with the LSA approvals.

More information http://www.pipistrel-usa.com

Kind regards Michael Coates Pipistrel USA
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Old November 24th 06, 08:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Pipistrel Kit Aircraft now FAA 51% Accepted

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 04:36:22 GMT, USER wrote:

Greetings all, the Pipistrel Sinus and Virus aircraft have been
inspected over the last couple of days and have been accepted by the
FAA is a 51% accepted kit.

This means that any customers purchasing these aircraft as kits do not
have to worry about certification themselves as it has already been
completed.


Ummm, well, no. Aircraft still have to go through the certification process.
The 51%-certification is a nice-to-have, but in itself doesn't guarantee the FAA
will certify the airplane as Experimental Amateur-Built. It's still possible
for the FAA to reject certification of an individual aircraft.

Ron Wanttaja
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Old November 25th 06, 12:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Pipistrel Kit Aircraft now FAA 51% Accepted


"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 04:36:22 GMT, USER wrote:



Ummm, well, no. Aircraft still have to go through the certification
process.
The 51%-certification is a nice-to-have, but in itself doesn't guarantee
the FAA
will certify the airplane as Experimental Amateur-Built. It's still
possible
for the FAA to reject certification of an individual aircraft.

Ron Wanttaja


C'mon Ron. You make it sound like the FAA guys are an officious bunch of
self righteous bureaucrats!


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Old November 25th 06, 12:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring,rec.aviation.homebuilt
Ron Wanttaja
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Default Pipistrel Kit Aircraft now FAA 51% Accepted

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 23:11:20 GMT, "Opie" wrote:


"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 04:36:22 GMT, USER wrote:



Ummm, well, no. Aircraft still have to go through the certification
process.
The 51%-certification is a nice-to-have, but in itself doesn't guarantee
the FAA
will certify the airplane as Experimental Amateur-Built. It's still
possible
for the FAA to reject certification of an individual aircraft.


C'mon Ron. You make it sound like the FAA guys are an officious bunch of
self righteous bureaucrats!


For the next (at least) two years, they'll be officious self-lefteous
bureaucrats. :-)

Ron Wanttaja
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Old November 25th 06, 04:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Pipistrel Kit Aircraft now FAA 51% Accepted

Really? so the whole staff gets flipped?

Brad

BTW.......when did you last hear of a kit that wasn't accepted as
amateur built by the FAA?


Ron Wanttaja wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 23:11:20 GMT, "Opie" wrote:


"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 04:36:22 GMT, USER wrote:



Ummm, well, no. Aircraft still have to go through the certification
process.
The 51%-certification is a nice-to-have, but in itself doesn't guarantee
the FAA
will certify the airplane as Experimental Amateur-Built. It's still
possible
for the FAA to reject certification of an individual aircraft.


C'mon Ron. You make it sound like the FAA guys are an officious bunch of
self righteous bureaucrats!


For the next (at least) two years, they'll be officious self-lefteous
bureaucrats. :-)

Ron Wanttaja


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Old November 25th 06, 07:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Pipistrel Kit Aircraft now FAA 51% Accepted

On 24 Nov 2006 19:33:22 -0800, "Brad" wrote:

BTW.......when did you last hear of a kit that wasn't accepted as
amateur built by the FAA?


Christen Eagle is the only one I know about, but that was way back in the dawn
o' time. Otherwise, companies are not likely to advertise that they flunked. I
suspect the FAA is usually specific enough where the company knows what they
have to do for their plane to pass. Many companies undoubtedly work with the
FAA as they develop the kit...for instance, I'm sure Van's worked it all out
with the Feds before they started having the contractor partially complete kits
for delivery as quick-build kits.

The big thing, of course, is that the type's inclusion on the approved 51% list
is *not* a pre-requisite to a homebuilt getting certified. The only thing it
does is offer some protection against capricious FSDO decisions.

Ron Wanttaja
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Old November 25th 06, 07:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Pipistrel Kit Aircraft now FAA 51% Accepted

They could still get a Experimental-Exhibition tho right? Not quite the
freedom a Amateur built COFA gives, but can still fly it.

The 2 sailplane kits I built and had inspected went thru the inspection
without any hassles. I was quite worried about the first kit; as it was
the first I ever built, and seemed to me to be quite complete when it
came out of the box. But, as you know, that manufacturer-builder check
list can be quite a handy tool!

I also want to give KUDO's to the Seattle MIDO, the two gentlemen I
worked with were quite professional, and very helpful.........hopefully
the next aircraft I build will be inspected by one of these fellows.

Cheers,
Brad


Ron Wanttaja wrote:
On 24 Nov 2006 19:33:22 -0800, "Brad" wrote:

BTW.......when did you last hear of a kit that wasn't accepted as
amateur built by the FAA?


Christen Eagle is the only one I know about, but that was way back in the dawn
o' time. Otherwise, companies are not likely to advertise that they flunked. I
suspect the FAA is usually specific enough where the company knows what they
have to do for their plane to pass. Many companies undoubtedly work with the
FAA as they develop the kit...for instance, I'm sure Van's worked it all out
with the Feds before they started having the contractor partially complete kits
for delivery as quick-build kits.

The big thing, of course, is that the type's inclusion on the approved 51% list
is *not* a pre-requisite to a homebuilt getting certified. The only thing it
does is offer some protection against capricious FSDO decisions.

Ron Wanttaja


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Old November 25th 06, 02:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Pipistrel Kit Aircraft now FAA 51% Accepted

Ron Wanttaja wrote:


For the next (at least) two years, they'll be officious self-lefteous
bureaucrats. :-)

Nope, congress doesn't appoint those bureaucrats, the president (one
child left behind) does.
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Old November 26th 06, 01:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring,rec.aviation.homebuilt
Juan Jimenez[_1_]
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Default Pipistrel Kit Aircraft now FAA 51% Accepted


"Opie" wrote in message
...

"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 04:36:22 GMT, USER wrote:



Ummm, well, no. Aircraft still have to go through the certification
process.
The 51%-certification is a nice-to-have, but in itself doesn't guarantee
the FAA
will certify the airplane as Experimental Amateur-Built. It's still
possible
for the FAA to reject certification of an individual aircraft.

Ron Wanttaja


C'mon Ron. You make it sound like the FAA guys are an officious bunch of
self righteous bureaucrats!


What else do they call themselves?



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Old November 26th 06, 01:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Brad" wrote in message
oups.com...
They could still get a Experimental-Exhibition tho right? Not quite the
freedom a Amateur built COFA gives, but can still fly it.


That depends where they stick you in the Exp/Exh structure. Some of the
subcategories are more restrictive than others.



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