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#42
January 3rd 04, 05:29 PM
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(B2431) wrote in message ...
From: (pacplyer) Date: 1/1/2004 9:20 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (B2431) wrote in message ... From: (pacplyer) Date: 1/1/2004 1:54 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (B2431) wrote How about UFO - United Fruitcakes Organization? Dan, U. S. Air Farce, retarded HO HO, HA HA. God you're witty. Did you retire as an E-2 by any chance? pacplyer What would make you say that? By the way I have met a retired E-1. He was medically retired due to service related injuries. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired Pac Puzzles: [Note: now that you have printed more than a one line slam, I'm being careful to keep in relevant material. Is that what your objection is? Did I take your one-liner out of context?] Pac said: Well... you like to call people fruitcakes and loons or regulate their free-speech right to use profanity, but then I see no postings from you that would lead me to believe that you've ever done anything but scrub the aeroclub latrine. Typing in "U. S. Air Force" in spread out letters hoping someone will mistake you for a pilot ....is my guess of what an E2 would do. ;-) Am I right? pacplyer I called no one a loon, the word was used by me in a thread involving bird puns. Please pay attention. Gee, then I went to the wrong college. Maybe I should try to get my money back. You posted the loon insult right after I made an off-color joke which you probably find "[un]civil". Do I have to include it in the body here, or do you think anyone's capable of checking that claim by going back in the thread? What… are we submitting formal essays here? (just for you I won't even snip anything here.) I also never called anyone a fruitcake. Calling people names or using personal insults is no way to debate or make a point. How is suggesting people not using vulgar language an infringement on anyone's "free speech?" I feel over use of vulgarity is an indication of a person's inability to communicate in a civil manner. Profanity, (which is something I'm sure you've never heard in the service) is an indicator of emotion, and an important Usenet clue in the absence of voice inflection and body language ... that's how I use it. It can be an indicator of personality I agree. Yes, I was enlisted, no I never implied or said I was a pilot. The "aeroclub" on any military base is not a military function. Use of military personel as you describe would be illegal. I was born at Reese. My old man was asked by his boss to run the aero club. He was an U. S. Air force officer. So this argument is bull. That's not how the real world works. In case you are wondering I was in aircraft maintenance, never faced disciplinary actions and retired honourably. Now, back to you. I seriously doubt you have any military experience. While not enlisted or commissioned, I flew DOD MAC charters for four years. I was in Desert Shield and Desert Storm as a Civilian accompanying the armed forces. I was issued the "Civilian Desert Shield and Desert Storm medal" by Ronald R. Fogleman, General, USAF, Commander, Air Mobility Command on April 15, 1993. (big deal: everyone got that who made at least one trip into the area of hostilities.) The fact you have resorted to personal insult tells me you really are not worth talking to. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired (and damned proud of it) Refering to me as a loon is an insult. That's why I responded in kind. Pacplyer - out 
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#43
January 3rd 04, 07:13 PM
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[snipped numerous headers, see above thread for Dan's other comments]
"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 11:49:25 -0500, "Stan's News" wrote: All, Bush is a bum, a skull and bones moron...., Cheney's stooge, and by the way Cheney is a bum too. Democrats, Republicans are all bums. Politics is the biggest bunch of bull**** and the boys are running the show. I like the saying, "I never vote, it only encourages them...." :-) Ron Wanttaja You guys could start a new political party - United Anarchists of the World (UAW). Rich S. Dan said: [insertion mine] How about UFO - United Fruitcakes Organization? Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired end quote As you can see I insulted no one. The comment was in the same tenor as the message to which I replied. Pac sez: Maybe I'm the one who's retarded here. Doesn't: "You guys could start a new political party - United Anarchists of the World (UAW)" by Rich S. refer to "You guys" as Ron Wanttaja and Stans News? Isn't that the message you replied to? Do you think Ron and Stan starting a "UFO - United Fruitcakes Organization" as you put it, is a compliment? Or would it be an insult? It wouldn't be worth mentioning except that you refered to me as a loon in the other thread. Rich's comment was funny and respectful. Yours didn't strike me that way. None of this justified your calling me retarded, saying I was impersonating an Air Force pilot etc. So you can dish it out but you can't take it. Again, we can't agree on what was printed. I intentionally followed my probe with: "am I right?" This infers uncertainty on my part. That's not the same thing as stating: "you ARE impersonating an Air Force pilot." I did taunt you with a wink, to find out if it's true. But you never answered the question: did you retire as an E-2? (and you don't have answer if it bothers you.) begin quote Well... you like to call people fruitcakes and loons or regulate their free-speech right to use profanity, but then I see no postings from you that would lead me to believe that you've ever done anything but scrub the aeroclub latrine. Typing in "U. S. Air Force" in spread out letters hoping someone will mistake you for a pilot ....is my guess of what an E2 would do. ;-) Am I right? end quote If you feel the need to accuse me of things or to insult me get your facts straight and do it as an adult. Now, back to you. I seriously doubt you have any military experience. The fact you have resorted to personal insult tells me you really are not worth talking to. Am I correct? Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired (and damned proud of it) Not worth talking to? O.K. I retract the insults. Military Experience? No, you are not correct. Civilian Reserve Air Fleet (CRAFT) deployed Sept 1990. (not enlisted or commissioned; see other post this thread.)
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#44
January 3rd 04, 08:36 PM
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From: (pacplyer)
Refering to me as a loon is an insult. That's why I responded in kind. Pacplyer - out As I told you before the loon comment was in a bird pun in response to a bird joke. You DO know a loon is a bird, don't you? If not look it up. begin quote From: (B2431) Date: 1/1/2004 3:06 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: From: (pacplyer) Date: 12/30/2003 10:39 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: "Tim Ward" wrote in message ... "Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message ... On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:49:21 -0800, "Rich S." wrote: "B2431" wrote in message ... In the old days pilots would often fly with a cat and a goose. This is an Urban Legend. Geese were never used, as they *love* to fly in the fog. Ducks were required. Yep. For one thing, geese will fly upside down, while a duck will avoid inverted flight. If ducks fly upside down, they quack up. Ron Wanttaja Yep, and they return from the vet with a big bill. Still, with a duck or a goose in the cockpit, you can always get down. Tim Ward Good point Tim. Lot's of "down" floating around. That's why it's important to check your air conditioning ducts before you take off. Q: How do you know you've blown a duct? A: You look in the mirror and see feathers around your mouth.... pacplyer Cheese and quackers, this thread brings out the loons. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired end quote In any event, your accusations and attacks on me far out weigh any offense you perceived. Since you insist on blaming me for your misunderstanding I hereby dismiss you and send you to Tarverland since you have so much in common with him. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired (and still damned proud of it)
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#45
January 4th 04, 02:52 AM
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#46
January 4th 04, 04:43 PM
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wrote in message ...
(referring to Bill Phillips and 'pacplyer') And you two are the only ones here that don't like Sydney. Are you two neighbors or something? I appreciate the compliment, but my first reaction reading this was: "Zounds! Where have I gone Wrong?" *g* I'm sure there are plenty of other people who don't like me on these newsgroups, past and present. I'm not everybody's Teacup, and I wouldn't want to be. However, it's generally true that those who don't like me, do respect me. Else just ignore me. Which brings me to this request: while I appreciate your concern for me, I wish you'd join them and leave my name out of your exchange with "pac" whoever he may be. I know for myself, it's much harder to sit quietly while someone I like or respect gets abused than it is to sit quietly while it's headed my way, but nevertheless, I ask. Personally if I were voting, I'd vote for "pac" as a compendium of several people including a sometime sock puppet for BP (a la Hef/Wingie). IIRC I think he actually sort of acknowledged something of the sort at one point. He's had his unintentionally amusing moments. Accusing me of "harassing" my long-time net.friend Chip was almost as good as "Hef's" Boxter -- true ROTFL. Now I gather he thinks I'm you, which is also funny. But overall he just sort of seems worth ignoring to me. Sort of like "Selway Kid" aka 'ol shy and bashful' (whose identity is another 'hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm') For a supposed aviation enthusiast and professional pilot, pacplyer doesn't seem to spend much time saying anything a) entertaining b) worthwhile about flying. Even Unka Bob, that noted net.curmudgeon has, in his crotchety way, much more worthwhile to say if you read between the lines. JMO of course and "do as thou wilt". Cheers, Sydney (with time to fly, temp 37/dewpoint 37, thunder and rain, forecast ice pellets. *grumble*)
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#47
January 4th 04, 06:38 PM
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#48
January 4th 04, 07:43 PM
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I don't like you.
John Stricker "Snowbird" wrote in message om... wrote in message ... However, it's generally true that those who don't like me, do respect me. Else just ignore me. Cheers, Sydney (with time to fly, temp 37/dewpoint 37, thunder and rain, forecast ice pellets. *grumble*)
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#49
January 4th 04, 07:43 PM
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Yes you do.
John Stricker "Snowbird" wrote in message om... wrote in message ... (referring to Bill Phillips and 'pacplyer') And you two are the only ones here that don't like Sydney. Are you two neighbors or something? I appreciate the compliment, but my first reaction reading this was: "Zounds! Where have I gone Wrong?" *g* I'm sure there are plenty of other people who don't like me on these newsgroups, past and present. I'm not everybody's Teacup, and I wouldn't want to be. However, it's generally true that those who don't like me, do respect me. Else just ignore me. Which brings me to this request: while I appreciate your concern for me, I wish you'd join them and leave my name out of your exchange with "pac" whoever he may be. I know for myself, it's much harder to sit quietly while someone I like or respect gets abused than it is to sit quietly while it's headed my way, but nevertheless, I ask. Personally if I were voting, I'd vote for "pac" as a compendium of several people including a sometime sock puppet for BP (a la Hef/Wingie). IIRC I think he actually sort of acknowledged something of the sort at one point. He's had his unintentionally amusing moments. Accusing me of "harassing" my long-time net.friend Chip was almost as good as "Hef's" Boxter -- true ROTFL. Now I gather he thinks I'm you, which is also funny. But overall he just sort of seems worth ignoring to me. Sort of like "Selway Kid" aka 'ol shy and bashful' (whose identity is another 'hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm') For a supposed aviation enthusiast and professional pilot, pacplyer doesn't seem to spend much time saying anything a) entertaining b) worthwhile about flying. Even Unka Bob, that noted net.curmudgeon has, in his crotchety way, much more worthwhile to say if you read between the lines. JMO of course and "do as thou wilt". Cheers, Sydney (with time to fly, temp 37/dewpoint 37, thunder and rain, forecast ice pellets. *grumble*)
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January 4th 04, 07:43 PM
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No I don't, don't tell me what to do.
John Stricker "Snowbird" wrote in message om... wrote in message ... (referring to Bill Phillips and 'pacplyer') And you two are the only ones here that don't like Sydney. Are you two neighbors or something? I appreciate the compliment, but my first reaction reading this was: "Zounds! Where have I gone Wrong?" *g* I'm sure there are plenty of other people who don't like me on these newsgroups, past and present. I'm not everybody's Teacup, and I wouldn't want to be. However, it's generally true that those who don't like me, do respect me. Else just ignore me. Which brings me to this request: while I appreciate your concern for me, I wish you'd join them and leave my name out of your exchange with "pac" whoever he may be. I know for myself, it's much harder to sit quietly while someone I like or respect gets abused than it is to sit quietly while it's headed my way, but nevertheless, I ask. Personally if I were voting, I'd vote for "pac" as a compendium of several people including a sometime sock puppet for BP (a la Hef/Wingie). IIRC I think he actually sort of acknowledged something of the sort at one point. He's had his unintentionally amusing moments. Accusing me of "harassing" my long-time net.friend Chip was almost as good as "Hef's" Boxter -- true ROTFL. Now I gather he thinks I'm you, which is also funny. But overall he just sort of seems worth ignoring to me. Sort of like "Selway Kid" aka 'ol shy and bashful' (whose identity is another 'hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm') For a supposed aviation enthusiast and professional pilot, pacplyer doesn't seem to spend much time saying anything a) entertaining b) worthwhile about flying. Even Unka Bob, that noted net.curmudgeon has, in his crotchety way, much more worthwhile to say if you read between the lines. JMO of course and "do as thou wilt". Cheers, Sydney (with time to fly, temp 37/dewpoint 37, thunder and rain, forecast ice pellets. *grumble*)
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