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Old September 6th 06, 10:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]
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http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld...e/15438549.htm

Two folks flew into instrument conditions and tried to fly back out without
success. Aircraft parts are scattered over a one mile radius.

Very unfortunate.



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Old September 6th 06, 01:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 05:25:21 -0400, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in
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http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld...e/15438549.htm

Two folks flew into instrument conditions and tried to fly back out without
success. Aircraft parts are scattered over a one mile radius.

Very unfortunate.



Would that be this one?


http://www.faa.gov/data_statistics/a...a/06_2932J.txt
************************************************** ******************************
** Report created 9/5/2006 Record 6 **
************************************************** ******************************

IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 2932J Make/Model: C150 Description: 150, A150,
Commuter, Aerobat
Date: 09/04/2006 Time: 1530

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid Air: N Missing:
N
Damage: Destroyed

LOCATION
City: LYNCHBURG State: VA Country: US

DESCRIPTION
ACFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, THE TWO PERSONS ON BOARD
WERE
FATALLY INJURED, 23 MILES SOUTHWEST OF LYNCHBURG, NEAR PENHOOK, VA

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 2
# Crew: 2 Fat: 2 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:

WEATHER: KLYH 041544Z 00000KT 6SM -RA FEW013 BKN030 OVC049 16/15

OTHER DATA

Departed: MONETA, VA Dep Date: Dep. Time:
Destination: FLORENCE, SC Flt Plan: Wx
Briefing:
Last Radio Cont:
Last Clearance:

FAA FSDO: RICHMOND, VA (EA21) Entry date:
09/05/2006
------------------------------------------------------------------


The time doesn't seem to match the news story:

The two-seat Cessna 150G went down around 11:30 a.m., said Sgt.
Robert Carpentieri. The victims were identified as Ira Nash, 34,
and Erika Nash, 28, of Fork, S.C., Carpentieri said. They had been
at a family reunion at Smith Mountain Lake and were en route to
Florence, S.C., when they ran into heavy fog and attempted to turn
around.


The 1966 Cessna 150 was apparently owned by Mr. Nash. If I understand
Mr. Nash's entry in the FAA Airmans Database correctly, it appears he
was issued his airmans certificate: 06/17/2006.

Pictures he
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/81311

Tragic indeed.

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Old September 6th 06, 01:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter R.
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Larry Dighera wrote:

Would that be this one?


That appears to be it. A query of the aircraft registration database shows
that registration number belonging to a person with the deceased's name.

Additionally, FlightAware.com does not have any history of an IFR flight
plan under that tail ID.

VFR into IMC?

Damn.

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  #4  
Old September 6th 06, 02:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default C-152 Breaks Up In Air

On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:57:57 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote in :

Larry Dighera wrote:

Would that be this one?


That appears to be it. A query of the aircraft registration database shows
that registration number belonging to a person with the deceased's name.

Additionally, FlightAware.com does not have any history of an IFR flight
plan under that tail ID.

VFR into IMC?

Damn.


It would appear the private pilot just received his certificate two
months prior, and was not instrument rated.

WEATHER: KLYH 041544Z 00000KT 6SM -RA FEW013 BKN030 OVC049 16/15

http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/81311
They flew out in poor conditions: heavy rain, cloud cover and fog,
Borgess said.

From the observed weather sequence it appears they departed just as
the weather worsened:


http://adds.aviationweather.noaa.gov...ans=translated

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

METAR text: KLYH 041554Z 00000KT 4SM RA BR SCT022 BKN030 OVC050
16/15 A3019 RMK AO2 SLP215 P0012 T01610150 $
Conditions at: KLYH (LYNCHBURG, VA, US) observed 1554 UTC 04
September 2006
Temperatu 16.1°C (61°F)
Dewpoint: 15.0°C (59°F) [RH = 93%]
Pressure (altimeter): 30.19 inches Hg (1022.4 mb)
[Sea-level pressu 1021.5 mb]
Winds: calm
Visibility: 4 miles (6 km)
Ceiling: 3000 feet AGL
Clouds: scattered clouds at 2200 feet AGL
broken clouds at 3000 feet AGL
overcast cloud deck at 5000 feet AGL
Weather: RA BR (rain, mist)
SOME DATA ABOVE MAY BE INACCURATE!!!
"$" is an indication the sensor requires maintenance


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

METAR text: KLYH 041544Z 00000KT 6SM -RA BR FEW013 BKN030 OVC049
16/15 A3019 RMK AO2 P0011 $
Conditions at: KLYH (LYNCHBURG, VA, US) observed 1544 UTC 04
September 2006
Temperatu 16.0°C (61°F)
Dewpoint: 15.0°C (59°F) [RH = 94%]
Pressure (altimeter): 30.19 inches Hg (1022.4 mb)
Winds: calm
Visibility: 6 miles (10 km)
Ceiling: 3000 feet AGL
Clouds: few clouds at 1300 feet AGL
broken clouds at 3000 feet AGL
overcast cloud deck at 4900 feet AGL
Weather: -RA BR (light rain, mist)
SOME DATA ABOVE MAY BE INACCURATE!!!
"$" is an indication the sensor requires maintenance


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

METAR text: KLYH 041526Z VRB03KT 2SM +RA BR FEW011 OVC026 16/15
A3019 RMK AO2 P0010 $
Conditions at: KLYH (LYNCHBURG, VA, US) observed 1526 UTC 04
September 2006
Temperatu 16.0°C (61°F)
Dewpoint: 15.0°C (59°F) [RH = 94%]
Pressure (altimeter): 30.19 inches Hg (1022.4 mb)
Winds: variable direction winds at 3 MPH (3 knots; 1.6 m/s)
Visibility: 2.00 miles (3.22 km)
Ceiling: 2600 feet AGL
Clouds: few clouds at 1100 feet AGL
overcast cloud deck at 2600 feet AGL
Weather: +RA BR (heavy rain, mist)
SOME DATA ABOVE MAY BE INACCURATE!!!
"$" is an indication the sensor requires maintenance


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

METAR text: KLYH 041454Z VRB03KT 6SM -RA BR BKN017 BKN032 OVC060
17/14 A3019 RMK AO2 RAB1357 SLP215 P0014 60014 T01670144 51012 $
Conditions at: KLYH (LYNCHBURG, VA, US) observed 1454 UTC 04
September 2006
Temperatu 16.7°C (62°F)
Dewpoint: 14.4°C (58°F) [RH = 86%]
Pressure (altimeter): 30.19 inches Hg (1022.4 mb)
[Sea-level pressu 1021.5 mb]
Winds: variable direction winds at 3 MPH (3 knots; 1.6 m/s)
Visibility: 6 miles (10 km)
Ceiling: 1700 feet AGL
Clouds: broken clouds at 1700 feet AGL
broken clouds at 3200 feet AGL
overcast cloud deck at 6000 feet AGL
Weather: -RA BR (light rain, mist)
SOME DATA ABOVE MAY BE INACCURATE!!!
"$" is an indication the sensor requires maintenance


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

METAR text: KLYH 041441Z 00000KT 4SM -RA BR BKN015 OVC025 17/14
A3018 RMK AO2 RAB1357 P0013 $
Conditions at: KLYH (LYNCHBURG, VA, US) observed 1441 UTC 04
September 2006
Temperatu 17.0°C (63°F)
Dewpoint: 14.0°C (57°F) [RH = 82%]
Pressure (altimeter): 30.18 inches Hg (1022.1 mb)
Winds: calm
Visibility: 4 miles (6 km)
Ceiling: 1500 feet AGL
Clouds: broken clouds at 1500 feet AGL
overcast cloud deck at 2500 feet AGL
Weather: -RA BR (light rain, mist)
SOME DATA ABOVE MAY BE INACCURATE!!!
"$" is an indication the sensor requires maintenance


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

METAR text: KLYH 041434Z VRB04KT 2 1/2SM +RA BR BKN013 OVC025
17/15 A3018 RMK AO2 RAB1357 P0012 $
Conditions at: KLYH (LYNCHBURG, VA, US) observed 1434 UTC 04
September 2006
Temperatu 17.0°C (63°F)
Dewpoint: 15.0°C (59°F) [RH = 88%]
Pressure (altimeter): 30.18 inches Hg (1022.1 mb)
Winds: variable direction winds at 5 MPH (4 knots; 2.1 m/s)
Visibility: 2.50 miles (4.02 km)
Ceiling: 1300 feet AGL
Clouds: broken clouds at 1300 feet AGL
overcast cloud deck at 2500 feet AGL
Weather: +RA BR (heavy rain, mist)
SOME DATA ABOVE MAY BE INACCURATE!!!
"$" is an indication the sensor requires maintenance


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

METAR text: KLYH 041425Z VRB03KT 4SM RA BR BKN017 OVC025 17/15
A3018 RMK AO2 RAB1357 P0009 $
Conditions at: KLYH (LYNCHBURG, VA, US) observed 1425 UTC 04
September 2006
Temperatu 17.0°C (63°F)
Dewpoint: 15.0°C (59°F) [RH = 88%]
Pressure (altimeter): 30.18 inches Hg (1022.1 mb)
Winds: variable direction winds at 3 MPH (3 knots; 1.6 m/s)
Visibility: 4 miles (6 km)
Ceiling: 1700 feet AGL
Clouds: broken clouds at 1700 feet AGL
overcast cloud deck at 2500 feet AGL
Weather: RA BR (rain, mist)
SOME DATA ABOVE MAY BE INACCURATE!!!
"$" is an indication the sensor requires maintenance


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

METAR text: KLYH 041417Z 00000KT 2 1/2SM RA BR SCT011 OVC025
17/15 A3018 RMK AO2 RAB1357 P0008 $
Conditions at: KLYH (LYNCHBURG, VA, US) observed 1417 UTC 04
September 2006
Temperatu 17.0°C (63°F)
Dewpoint: 15.0°C (59°F) [RH = 88%]
Pressure (altimeter): 30.18 inches Hg (1022.1 mb)
Winds: calm
Visibility: 2.50 miles (4.02 km)
Ceiling: 2500 feet AGL
Clouds: scattered clouds at 1100 feet AGL
overcast cloud deck at 2500 feet AGL
Weather: RA BR (rain, mist)
SOME DATA ABOVE MAY BE INACCURATE!!!
"$" is an indication the sensor requires maintenance


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

METAR text: KLYH 041408Z VRB03KT 1 3/4SM +RA OVC025 17/14 A3018
RMK AO2 VIS 1 1/4V3 RAB1357 P0004 $
Conditions at: KLYH (LYNCHBURG, VA, US) observed 1408 UTC 04
September 2006
Temperatu 17.0°C (63°F)
Dewpoint: 14.0°C (57°F) [RH = 82%]
Pressure (altimeter): 30.18 inches Hg (1022.1 mb)
Winds: variable direction winds at 3 MPH (3 knots; 1.6 m/s)
Visibility: 1.75 miles (2.82 km)
Ceiling: 2500 feet AGL
Clouds: overcast cloud deck at 2500 feet AGL
Weather: +RA (heavy rain)
SOME DATA ABOVE MAY BE INACCURATE!!!
"$" is an indication the sensor requires maintenance


From eye witness reports it appears the wings came off in flight.

Mary Ann Plunkett was talking on the telephone when she heard a
"terrible, rattly" noise. She saw the plane, watched it disappear
behind the trees and figured it went down.

Then Jacob White saw the plane nose-diving, without any wings. By
that point, the plane was no longer making any noise, he said. He
saw it go down into the woods behind his house.

Tragic.


  #5  
Old September 6th 06, 02:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Larry,

Tragic indeed.


Hmm. If indeed it was VFR into IMC and the pilot had obtained his
certificate only two months prior, that's not the only word that comes
to mind. And I would have some questions for the CFI.

--
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Old September 6th 06, 02:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Peter R." wrote:

That appears to be it. A query of the aircraft registration database shows
that registration number belonging to a person with the deceased's name.

Additionally, FlightAware.com does not have any history of an IFR flight
plan under that tail ID.

VFR into IMC?


Most likely 100% avoidable and yet it continues to happen.

Ron Lee
Grounded due to fog.
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Old September 6th 06, 03:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Ron Lee wrote:


Most likely 100% avoidable and yet it continues to happen.



Even if you're rich and famous.

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Old September 6th 06, 03:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Thomas Borchert wrote:

Larry,

Tragic indeed.


Hmm. If indeed it was VFR into IMC and the pilot had obtained his
certificate only two months prior, that's not the only word that comes
to mind. And I would have some questions for the CFI.


A word that I think of is "stupid." You can't legislate common sense.
If this was a case of "get home-itis" then it is just one more. It
would not be the last.

Ron Lee
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Old September 6th 06, 03:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
to mind. And I would have some questions for the CFI.


On the surface it appears to be a case of poor decision making
combined with lack of experience. CFI's can't 'teach' experience
and can only do our best to teach good decision making....
and a good part of that is grounded in common sense.
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Old September 6th 06, 03:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:13:59 -0400, The Visitor
wrote in
:

Ron Lee wrote:

Most likely 100% avoidable and yet it continues to happen.


Even if you're rich and famous.


From the photographs of the diseased here
http://www.wdbj7.com/global/story.asp?s=5362572 it's difficult to
believe the "mechanic at a Chevrolet dealership" was either.

It looks like the pilot was attempting to sell his Cessna:


http://www.barnstormers.com/listing....36007139c8bce6
CESSNA 150G • $18,500 • ACCEPTING OFFERS • 5507ttaf/550SMOH,
autofuel, stol tips, new tires, o/h seats, mode c, slick mags
email 4 pics • Contact Ira R. Nash - located Fork, SC USA •
Telephone: 843-250-5271 • Posted August 23, 2006

 




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