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Steve,
I never realized there were so many religion nuts in aviation. Amazing! I never realized there were so many atheist nuts in aviation. Amazing! After looking at all the harm religion has brought over mankind, how can one not fight it whereever it rears its ugly head - if one wants to remain a halfway moral being. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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Mike,
If they really believed in allah, and we were really that bad, wouldn't some allah induced terror befall us? That argument is old hat even in Christian circles, where a supposedly benevolent God couldn't possibly allow wars, famine et cetera. The easy answer: This is God's/Allah's/The Great Pumpkin's way to test us and our faith. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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H.,
I have no idea why the universe exists, and we don't even have any idea why there needs to be a reason it exists. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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Matthew,
Agreed on Buddhaism. so your theory that the world is in the shape it's in now due to religion does not ring completely true. Not exclusively because of religion, but looking back, it is one of the primary propaganda machines to bring evil over the world. Of course it is still humans killing humans, but religion seems to work exceptionally well as a motivator. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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After looking at all the harm religion has brought over mankind, how can one not fight it whereever it rears its ugly head - if one wants to remain a halfway moral being. I guess I should cancel my plans to deliver Thanksgiving dinner to the needy tomorrow. Since it's on behalf of my church. |
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H. Adam Stevens wrote:
But tether the camels anyway. I suppose our version would be: Trust in the FAA, but preflight anyway. Or...maybe not grin. - Andrew |
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G.R. Patterson III wrote:
Wdtabor wrote: This is a fight I have with my fellow LP members often. TO me, it is more important that libertarian ideas prevail, not Libertarian candidates. If that means gently persuading Republicans and even some Democrats to become more libertarian, then so be it. Let's see if I understand you correctly. Your theory is that, if enough people vote Libertarian, the other candidates will start to adopt some of the LP views in an attempt to siphon off some of those votes? That's exactly what third parties have always done for our system. They introduce radical ideas into the mix and the ones that have merit are eventually embraced by the mainstream. Perot's Independent party was the last one in recent history to have such an impact. I would like to be able to agree, but I think that Dems and Reps would simply be afraid of losing votes they already have and afraid of losing the support of the main party. In any case, a vote is never "wasted" if you vote for the candidate you prefer. Absolutley. Although sometimes I wish you could check a box next to a candidate's name that's labeled "Against". -- Frank....H |
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John T wrote:
"Teacherjh" wrote in message But...if that's the bias of the majority of the Members, where's the harm? The harm is that the whole point of the constitution is to protect the minority against the tyranny of the majority. My statement was specifically regarding the prayer offered at the opening of sessions of Congress. Nothing more. Such a prayer can hardly be considered "tyranny of the majority." We were taught the principle as 'the will of the people with protection of the rights of the minority". So it need not be 'tyranny' to be harmful. But what happens all too often is that non-participation is used against those of different faiths. Any members that feel the need to pray before going to work can do so anytime and with anyone outside the chamber. If they were sensitive to the role they play in government and their agenda is not to promote religion then they would have got their praying done before hand and have no need of risking offending anyone. That said, I'll spend money no matter what is printed on it. So send me some if you don't like what it says. Completely agreed! Amen! -- Frank....H |
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That said, I'll spend money no matter what is printed on it. So send
me some if you don't like what it says. Completely agreed! Amen! Some of us are figuring out how to boycott the $10s when they start to appear with Reagan's mug on them (how many days after he dies, I wonder). But I must admit it is the turn of the other side of the aisle; the most recent new Presidential faces on currency begin JFK and FDR. -- David Brooks |
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:58:36 -0500, "G.R. Patterson III"
wrote: mike regish wrote: I guess, in a way, they're saying they're not satisfied with allah's job performance. Isn't there something in the Christian faith to the extent of "the Lord helps those as helps themselves"? Yes, but it's there to prevent people from becoming lazy mystics, not to justify brutish behavior. Rob |
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