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Maxie begins a new kook-out.were.... Airliner crashes into Hudson River after LGA departure
ah wrote in news:4979159a$0$57669
: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: ah wrote in news:4973fe28$0$57681 : Bertie the Bunyip wrote: ah wrote in anews.com: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: ah wrote in news:49728b5c$0$57670 : Bertie the Bunyip wrote: "Maxwell" #$$9#@%%%.^^^ wrote in news:%Focl.29929$H12.18354 @newsfe12.iad: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... John wrote in news:32b8ee0b-1587-4404-a9f3-e33d06d50c51 @u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com: On Jan 15, 3:12 pm, Mxsmanic wrote: Kingfish writes: Holy smokes! CNN is reporting an airliner went down in the Hudson after departing LaGuardia. I heard something about birdstrikes, but can't imagine a double engine failure due to that(?) They sure picked a cold day to go swimming... Hope everybody is ok... Bird strikes are a leading cause of engine failure. Jet engines don't often fail all on their own. Well, according to http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...y_channel.jsp? channel=busav& id=news/eng08036.xml By the way, the study's authors noted that compressor stalls/surges account for two-thirds of the engine malfunctions in today's turbofans. This is a change from earlier generation turbine designs in which uncontained failures were the principal malfunction. Since stall/ surge is the primary engine malfunction, one would assume that it would be a regular item during initial, recurrent or simulator training. And yet, I cannot recall ever reviewing the matter or being exposed to a compressor stall/surge during a simulator session. I have, but only a couple of times and just to run through the drill.Most checklists just have you retarding the throttle and/or shutting down anyhow. Most times nowadays with high bypass fans it trashes the engine straight away, unlike the old JT8s and such which would fart away happily enough until you pulled the thrust lever back. Bertie Sounds like you, retarded and farting away. Awww, maxie make a witty! ROLF! Tie me kangaroo down, sport. What-ho, Squiffy? uh wwuh uh wwuh uh whiggga whigga whuh.. Cabbages on the ceiling, Ser! Rice in all the crevices. Makes a whole new meaning for "chop-stix", eh? It had an old meaning? Bertie |
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Airliner crashes into Hudson River after LGA departure
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... "Maxwell" #$$9#@%%%.^^^ wrote in news "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . "Maxwell" #$$9#@%%%.^^^ wrote in : "George" wrote in message news:b3b5c219-1618-4c7d-9d4f-e1aaf646b26a@ 35g2000pry.googlegroups.com .. . On Jan 18, 3:37 pm, "Maxwell" #$$9#@%%%.^^^ wrote: I'm not Mx, and you can't seem to decide if you are George or Ricky. Are you having an identity crisis? Take the "a" out of Maxwell & you get MX. George (aka; Ricky) --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -------------------- Wow dicky, you figured that out all on your own? Take the G out of George or the R out of ricky, and you still have a dumb ass. An take the asshole out of MAxie and you got nothing. Bertie Not true, take the asshole out of anything, and you would be holding a Baby Bertie. Ah, more IKYABWAI lames.. C'mon maxie at least try to makeit a little bit interesting. Bertie Sorry, no one can make you interesting. |
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Turboprops
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... "Maxwell" #$$9#@%%%.^^^ wrote in : "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . "Maxwell" #$$9#@%%%.^^^ wrote in : "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... Nope, i just like watching you bitch and moan. It's a bit like watching a turtle turned on it's back. Bertie At least you have a grip on your own situation. Awww, another IKYABWAI poast. C'mon Maxie a bit of effort here please. Bertie Effort? What, you wanna play Squirty the ****Drip again? Well, if you want to be ****ed on again, not a lot i can do to stop that. Bertie So you admit your illness and inability to restrain yourself. |
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Fresh Maxie, NUMMY!
"Maxwell" #$$9#@%%%.^^^ wrote in :
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... "Maxwell" #$$9#@%%%.^^^ wrote in news "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . "Maxwell" #$$9#@%%%.^^^ wrote in : "George" wrote in message news:b3b5c219-1618-4c7d-9d4f-e1aaf646b26a@ 35g2000pry.googlegroups.com .. . On Jan 18, 3:37 pm, "Maxwell" #$$9#@%%%.^^^ wrote: I'm not Mx, and you can't seem to decide if you are George or Ricky. Are you having an identity crisis? Take the "a" out of Maxwell & you get MX. George (aka; Ricky) --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -------------------- Wow dicky, you figured that out all on your own? Take the G out of George or the R out of ricky, and you still have a dumb ass. An take the asshole out of MAxie and you got nothing. Bertie Not true, take the asshole out of anything, and you would be holding a Baby Bertie. Ah, more IKYABWAI lames.. C'mon maxie at least try to makeit a little bit interesting. Bertie Sorry, no one can make you interesting. Sure they can Maxie. For instance, the nice folks over at alt.usenet.kooksfind me dead boring unless I feed them fresh k00ks like you. Bertie |
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Maxie begins a new kook-out.were.... Airliner crashes into HudsonRiver after LGA departure
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Maxie begins a new kook-out.were.... Airliner crashes into Hudson River after LGA departure
Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile
: On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:00:35 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: §ñühw¤£f wrote in news:BrOdnXm6qpDgCeXUnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@centurytel .net: Bertie the Bunyip pinched out a steaming pile : §ñühw¤£f wrote in : In message , Bob Officer wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:31:50 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:31:29 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:20:16 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: §ñühw¤£f wrote in news:t96dnQfJw- : Bertie the Bunyip pinched out a steaming pile : "Scott M. Kozel" wrote in news:gkvte8$eth$1 @news.motzarella.org: §ñühw¤£f wrote: I propose a technological solution to the problem of bird strikes: turboprops. Lets return to the good old days pre-jet engines. Well ... while the L-188 Lockheed Electra example is a turboprop, the above poster apparently didn't realize that a turboprop engine has a jet engine. Discuss. The large piston engines were incredibly complex, and generally could drive airliners at only about half the speed of those with the pure jet engines. yes, but they were so much more fun Bertie Ok ok...totally *genius* idea: dirigibles. Excellent. I'll sign on for a course. Yeah, think on that for a while. Its either that or the locomotive, chaps. Only if it's a real one. i.e. Steam No! Hell no! And what pray tell is wrong with steam? Steam locomotives? Everything. Well man spit it out! Lets not play guessing games here! Have you ever been on a working steam locomotive? Not while its running. They are very dirty (producing soot and ash. Very noisy. (usually about 90-105 dB. They get louder under full power) Yeap. Coal fired mostly. Most all locomotive engineers from the steam era were deaf. and suffered breathing problems. My granpa was one Deaf as hell but no breathing problems...he didnt know who the **** I was later since he was all alzheimersy & stuff. Most all locomotive engineers from the diesel era still suffer hearing loss. Most all operating employees for railroads with more than 10 years of service have some hearing loss. About ten years ago the railroads started losing lawsuits over hearing losses and started a hearing conservation program. Too bad it was 27 years too late. YEah...back in the day it was a macho job and you didnt **** & moan about the conditions. Biggest complaints from crews which still use those 1st and 2nd generation locomotives, noise and exhaust fumes in the cab. Ever seen a track weasel? Mm, no. I seem to remeber hearing the term, though. What is it? back in the olden days the trains toilet dumped straight onto the tracks...the TP that persisted was called a "track weasel". OK never heard of that. ANd now it's lodged in my head forever. When will I learn? Would the same thing happen if the blue ice sublimated leaving only the residue floating in the air? Didnt airlines used to just dump straight out the plane? IIRC people & things were getting hit with GIANT ICEY TURD-CUBES. shudder -- http://www.bds-palestine.net/?q=node/9 ___ ___ ___ ___ /\__\ /\ \ /\ \ /\ \ /:/ _/_ \:\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ /:/ /\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ /:/ /::\ \ _____\:\ \ ___ \:\ \ ___ /::\ \ /:/_/:/\:\__\ /::::::::\__\ /\ \ \:\__\ /\ /:/\:\__\ \:\/:/ /:/ / \:\~~\~~\/__/ \:\ \ /:/ / \:\/:/ \/__/ \::/ /:/ / \:\ \ \:\ /:/ / \::/__/ \/_/:/ / \:\ \ \:\/:/ / \:\ \ /:/ / \:\__\ \::/ / \:\__\ |
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Maxie begins a new kook-out.were.... Airliner crashes into Hudson River after LGA departure
Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile
: On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:49:33 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:36:12 -0700, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: In message , Bob Officer wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:31:50 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:31:29 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:20:16 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: §ñühw¤£f wrote in news:t96dnQfJw- : Bertie the Bunyip pinched out a steaming pile : "Scott M. Kozel" wrote in news:gkvte8$eth$1 : §ñühw¤£f wrote: I propose a technological solution to the problem of bird strikes: turboprops. Lets return to the good old days pre-jet engines. Well ... while the L-188 Lockheed Electra example is a turboprop, the above poster apparently didn't realize that a turboprop engine has a jet engine. Discuss. The large piston engines were incredibly complex, and generally could drive airliners at only about half the speed of those with the pure jet engines. yes, but they were so much more fun Bertie Ok ok...totally *genius* idea: dirigibles. Excellent. I'll sign on for a course. Yeah, think on that for a while. Its either that or the locomotive, chaps. Only if it's a real one. i.e. Steam No! Hell no! And what pray tell is wrong with steam? Steam locomotives? Everything. Well man spit it out! Lets not play guessing games here! Have you ever been on a working steam locomotive? Not while its running. I have. Didja get to be the shovelman? No the engine had a working feed system. I do believe when Dad Fired steam on the L&N they had "stokers" that hand fed the coal if the feed broke or didn't work. Originally an operating crew would be the engineer, firemen, and if they had cars, a conductor and brakemen for every x numbers of cars on the territory. Stokers were not really members of "the crew", but worked under the direction of the Locomotive Firemen. The Engineer operated the locomotive and was responsible for the trains safe operation. The Conductor was in charge of cars and the contents, there of and the assignment and positioning of his brake men. The brakes on the train were set (by hand) at the direction of the engineer. (all those whistle signals.) Then the airbrakes came about, the need for multiple brakemen for x number of cars. Yeah..."improvements" to the system cut manpower. now all you have is one or two people per train trying to stay awake. So much for "progress". They are very dirty (producing soot and ash. Very noisy. (usually about 90-105 dB. They get louder under full power) Yeap. Coal fired mostly. One coal and everything else was oil. Leave us not forget *wood*...it was plentiful once across the country. Most all locomotive engineers from the steam era were deaf. and suffered breathing problems. My granpa was one So was mine, and so was my Dad. Go Union! However That wasn't how it worked. Grandad worked the Rock Island St Louis to Sikeston he retired at 65 with something like 50 years of service. Pop worked for the L&N @ Cleveland, Tn. Then he came west during WW2. He went to work for the SP and retired with 45+ years of combined service. There was 20 months of military service, and he was discharged because of heart murmur. Still...back in the day...those *were* good jobs. At least you had some security. Downsizing wasn't the norm. Now, its "oh ****, the passenger load has dropped off by 5%, lets fire a bunch of people and cut service". Deaf as hell but no breathing problems...he didnt know who the **** I was later since he was all alzheimersy & stuff. My dad died from lung cancer (both Small Cell Carcinoma and Metastasized melanoma. Bummer...the smoke was it? Asbestos and/or smoke. Me-so-thee-lee-oh-ma. nods Most all locomotive engineers from the diesel era still suffer hearing loss. Most all operating employees for railroads with more than 10 years of service have some hearing loss. About ten years ago the railroads started losing lawsuits over hearing losses and started a hearing conservation program. Too bad it was 27 years too late. YEah...back in the day it was a macho job and you didnt **** & moan about the conditions. The ****ed and moaned even then. I've listen to those guys all my life. no...they laughed at management...but as for crying about the conditions? Yep the ****ed and moaned about that too. Well yer fambly wasn't "stoic" then. No real railroader would complain "its too tough". Being gone most of the time? Missing their families? If it wasn't for the "good money", they would have left. My grandpa was lucky then. He worked one line and was home often enough...GNRY. Today the railroad has cut its pay for new hires to 30%. Wages have effectively dropped since 1985 to about 65% of what they were compared to pre-1985. The employees with seniority (like me) have made up for this by just working trips. I now work 25 days a month compared to the 18-19 days I worked before 1985. The cry was a demand for more productivity. the Grace commission of Ronnie agreed. The funny thing is while productivity went up wages decreased. The number of working employees decreased and got the average age increased. this increased the health care costs and over the next 4 contracts the carriers cried about the increases to health care cost. (the fact the employees health care increases because of increase of work stress also was ignored.) I ****ing hated Reagan. His passing made me smile Biggest complaints from crews which still use those 1st and 2nd generation locomotives, noise and exhaust fumes in the cab. Ever seen a track weasel? I seen just about everything. including the look on a kids face just after he finally looked up and saw the locomotive, just before it hit him. Ugh. Musta been a deaf kid. Nope, listening to his ipod at full volume. Holy shnikeies!!! When the conductor and brakemen went back to look, then found his Ipod laying near the impact sight, still playing at full volume. He was listening to some sort of Rap. ZOMGZ! I *knew* it! "Rap kills". -- http://www.bds-palestine.net/?q=node/9 ___ ___ ___ ___ /\__\ /\ \ /\ \ /\ \ /:/ _/_ \:\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ /:/ /\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ /:/ /::\ \ _____\:\ \ ___ \:\ \ ___ /::\ \ /:/_/:/\:\__\ /::::::::\__\ /\ \ \:\__\ /\ /:/\:\__\ \:\/:/ /:/ / \:\~~\~~\/__/ \:\ \ /:/ / \:\/:/ \/__/ \::/ /:/ / \:\ \ \:\ /:/ / \::/__/ \/_/:/ / \:\ \ \:\/:/ / \:\ \ /:/ / \:\__\ \::/ / \:\__\ |
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Maxie begins a new kook-out.were.... Airliner crashes into Hudson River after LGA departure
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Maxie begins a new kook-out.were.... Airliner crashes into Hudson River after LGA departure
In message , Bob Officer wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:11:06 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:49:33 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:36:12 -0700, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: In message , Bob Officer wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:31:50 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:31:29 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:20:16 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: §ñühw¤£f wrote in news:t96dnQfJw- : Bertie the Bunyip pinched out a steaming pile : "Scott M. Kozel" wrote in news:gkvte8$eth$1 : §ñühw¤£f wrote: I propose a technological solution to the problem of bird strikes: turboprops. Lets return to the good old days pre-jet engines. Well ... while the L-188 Lockheed Electra example is a turboprop, the above poster apparently didn't realize that a turboprop engine has a jet engine. Discuss. The large piston engines were incredibly complex, and generally could drive airliners at only about half the speed of those with the pure jet engines. yes, but they were so much more fun Bertie Ok ok...totally *genius* idea: dirigibles. Excellent. I'll sign on for a course. Yeah, think on that for a while. Its either that or the locomotive, chaps. Only if it's a real one. i.e. Steam No! Hell no! And what pray tell is wrong with steam? Steam locomotives? Everything. Well man spit it out! Lets not play guessing games here! Have you ever been on a working steam locomotive? Not while its running. I have. Didja get to be the shovelman? No the engine had a working feed system. I do believe when Dad Fired steam on the L&N they had "stokers" that hand fed the coal if the feed broke or didn't work. Originally an operating crew would be the engineer, firemen, and if they had cars, a conductor and brakemen for every x numbers of cars on the territory. Stokers were not really members of "the crew", but worked under the direction of the Locomotive Firemen. The Engineer operated the locomotive and was responsible for the trains safe operation. The Conductor was in charge of cars and the contents, there of and the assignment and positioning of his brake men. The brakes on the train were set (by hand) at the direction of the engineer. (all those whistle signals.) Then the airbrakes came about, the need for multiple brakemen for x number of cars. Yeah..."improvements" to the system cut manpower. now all you have is one or two people per train trying to stay awake. So much for "progress". You don't know the half of it... The roundhouse up in essex was taken down and people lost jobs. Every time theres some manpower saving device, people loose jobs. Eventually we'll all sit at home or whatever and the robots will do everything. They are very dirty (producing soot and ash. Very noisy. (usually about 90-105 dB. They get louder under full power) Yeap. Coal fired mostly. One coal and everything else was oil. Leave us not forget *wood*...it was plentiful once across the country. Most all locomotive engineers from the steam era were deaf. and suffered breathing problems. My granpa was one So was mine, and so was my Dad. Go Union! However That wasn't how it worked. Grandad worked the Rock Island St Louis to Sikeston he retired at 65 with something like 50 years of service. Pop worked for the L&N @ Cleveland, Tn. Then he came west during WW2. He went to work for the SP and retired with 45+ years of combined service. There was 20 months of military service, and he was discharged because of heart murmur. Still...back in the day...those *were* good jobs. At least you had some security. Downsizing wasn't the norm. Now, its "oh ****, the passenger load has dropped off by 5%, lets fire a bunch of people and cut service". up until about 1990 there was a seasonal flow. As the business would ebb people in operating crafts would be cut off/layed off. Then called back in senority order. Some would stick around and others would find work eslewhere and wouldn't come back. Around here lots of kids put themselves through college working all summer for the RR and then getting cut off right up until the xmas rush. Then they would be cutoff until the summer. here is even an area where they kids would work only the weekends getting cut off every monday morning and called back every friday night. Part timers get no bennies, sure. It would generally take a person 5-7 years before they could work year round. 10-12 before they could work regular jobs on a temporay basis. and 20 plus to hold any sort of regular job on a year round basis. Railroad reschedual work on a need be basis (within the scope of the union contracts) so their is a big degree of non-control. They are subject tot he demands and needs of the shippers. Floriduh just gave CSX a big huge contract. Deaf as hell but no breathing problems...he didnt know who the **** I was later since he was all alzheimersy & stuff. My dad died from lung cancer (both Small Cell Carcinoma and Metastasized melanoma. Bummer...the smoke was it? Asbestos and/or smoke. Me-so-thee-lee-oh-ma. nods You got it. Well I hope not Most all locomotive engineers from the diesel era still suffer hearing loss. Most all operating employees for railroads with more than 10 years of service have some hearing loss. About ten years ago the railroads started losing lawsuits over hearing losses and started a hearing conservation program. Too bad it was 27 years too late. YEah...back in the day it was a macho job and you didnt **** & moan about the conditions. The ****ed and moaned even then. I've listen to those guys all my life. no...they laughed at management...but as for crying about the conditions? Yep the ****ed and moaned about that too. Well yer fambly wasn't "stoic" then. all to often the conditions were what you could make them. the trouble is most of the people were content to work in substandard conditions. After the union busting in Bisbee Arizona in 1910 or so...sure...beats getting put on box cars, taken into the desert, and shot by thugs. No real railroader would complain "its too tough". Being gone most of the time? Missing their families? If it wasn't for the "good money", they would have left. My grandpa was lucky then. He worked one line and was home often enough...GNRY. Dad was gone from home about 60% of the nights. The road work had a layover at the away from home point. It was almost like a second home for him. Did he have a second wife? Today the railroad has cut its pay for new hires to 30%. Wages have effectively dropped since 1985 to about 65% of what they were compared to pre-1985. The employees with seniority (like me) have made up for this by just working trips. I now work 25 days a month compared to the 18-19 days I worked before 1985. The cry was a demand for more productivity. the Grace commission of Ronnie agreed. The funny thing is while productivity went up wages decreased. The number of working employees decreased and got the average age increased. this increased the health care costs and over the next 4 contracts the carriers cried about the increases to health care cost. (the fact the employees health care increases because of increase of work stress also was ignored.) I ****ing hated Reagan. His passing made me smile The only thing was he never felt the pain he caused. The idiot would cut firewood for fun. did he realize his actions created a group of people that were cutting firewood just to feed their families. He lived in a lovely 1950's family show that played in his head. The world to him was just one big Leave It to Beaver episode. Biggest complaints from crews which still use those 1st and 2nd generation locomotives, noise and exhaust fumes in the cab. Ever seen a track weasel? I seen just about everything. including the look on a kids face just after he finally looked up and saw the locomotive, just before it hit him. Ugh. Musta been a deaf kid. Nope, listening to his ipod at full volume. Holy shnikeies!!! I just said "****!" Sad. When the conductor and brakemen went back to look, then found his Ipod laying near the impact sight, still playing at full volume. He was listening to some sort of Rap. ZOMGZ! I *knew* it! "Rap kills". That's a valid assumption. It was the train that killed him, it was the Rap! Ipods are dangerous and should be banned. nods -- "I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.... The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home." -James Madison |
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