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2018 - AN EXCITING YEAR
I fly commercial rides Sundays at my local glider port. This glider operation is now pretty much being run by the second generation, i.e., very experienced operation. They have G-103 and 2-33's. I am told that they can teach someone in in the 2-33, get them past and check ride and then check that same pilot out in the G-103, in less time than it takes to teach to check ride in the G-103.
I learned to fly gliders in the G-103, and 98% of my flight time is in high performance glass so I try to avoid as many rides in the 2-33's as possible and grab the G-103 rides. As for students flying a quieter glider, pitch angles and a good scan. I regularly fly four different types of gliders with four different approach speeds in an environment where a Very steep wind gradient can exist, or not. All have different levels of ambient noise, from the quietest I have ever not heard, to having to shout to the ride. Takes a femtosecond to scan past ASI after you set pitch angle, then maybe another look on stabilized final. On Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 6:40:06 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 12:15:07 PM UTC-7, Chris Rowland wrote: The question to ask is would you send an average pilot solo in a Duo? Chris At 18:47 18 February 2018, Dave Springford wrote: I think that you will find the primary difference between the Duo and K-21 = is energy management. Teaching students to manage energy and land is one o= f the keys to getting them solo in a reasonable amount of time. My club pu= rchased a Duo XL last year and while we have been training in K-21's for 10= years, the transition to the Duo was not easy for some licensed pilots. = =20 It is much quieter than the K-21 so the noise feedback for speed control is= gone. It is much slipperier than the K-21 so subtle changes in attitude result in= much larger changes in speed. Couple this with the lack of noise and pilot= s were finding themselves over 70 kts on final. It carries more energy into the landing than does a K-21, although the addi= tion of landing flaps to the XL version resolves much of this. Besides its handling and performance, another nice advantage is the sideway= s opening canopy does not result in burn marks on the instrument panel in t= he front and headrest in the back. We've sent an S3 vario back 2 times for= screen replacement because of sun burns that happen almost instantly when = the sun is in the worst possible spot for a K-21. Yes, I would send a student solo in a Duo Discus. But a better question is how much longer would it take to get the student to solo standard vs a K21. I am not sure what the average amount of flights to solo would be in each aircraft but I am certain it would be more in a Duo. For the sake of argument, lets say it would take 5 more flights to solo in a Duo. If you have 10 students, you will need 50 more flights from your instructor group. If that is not a big deal than get a Duo. If like most clubs your instructor time is at a premium then get a K-21 (or 2-33,L-23). |
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