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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message . net... "G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ... Peter Gottlieb wrote: It's almost better to just let it run its course and get so horrifically bad faster, so it affects more of the public sooner, and some brave leader stands up and asks why we are hurting ourselves like this. That strategy didn't work very well for the "war on drugs" insanity. So what's to be done? Have we become a nation of sheep to be herded my manipulative "leaders?" Yep. Life according to soccer moms driving SUVs. |
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"Tom S." wrote in message ... "G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ... Peter Gottlieb wrote: It's almost better to just let it run its course and get so horrifically bad faster, so it affects more of the public sooner, and some brave leader stands up and asks why we are hurting ourselves like this. That strategy didn't work very well for the "war on drugs" insanity. Nor it's grandparent; prohibition. But with the new police state mentality (matched by the new attitude in business of the customer as enemy), aided by vastly improved tracking and spying abilities, prohibition of "drugs," tobacco, and shortly to follow, alcohol and guns, may just succeed. Of course, by then, it will be too late. |
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message . net... "Tom S." wrote in message ... "G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ... Peter Gottlieb wrote: It's almost better to just let it run its course and get so horrifically bad faster, so it affects more of the public sooner, and some brave leader stands up and asks why we are hurting ourselves like this. That strategy didn't work very well for the "war on drugs" insanity. Nor it's grandparent; prohibition. But with the new police state mentality (matched by the new attitude in business of the customer as enemy), aided by vastly improved tracking and spying abilities, prohibition of "drugs," tobacco, and shortly to follow, alcohol and guns, may just succeed. Of course, by then, it will be too late. Hate to alarm you, but I think it's already too late, and has been for a couple generations. U(P)SA - United Police States of America ?? |
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In article . net,
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: Unlikely. We can't even keep drugs out of prisons. heck, some people can't even figure out why you would want to keep drugs out of prisons. -- Bob Noel |
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"Dr. Anthony J. Lomenzo" writes:
I think they've given up on the drug war thing as a losing battle If "they" give up on the drug war, it's just because they have new jobs. The drug war was a way to keep a lot of people employed and in power. The "war on terrorism" should be a decent substitute for many. I think it'll be a lot easier for power mongers to justify their actions using the "war on terrorism" than the "war on drugs." --kyler |
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the new culprit i which to go to war is .... tobacco products. In my view it's a little different, as my issue with smoking is that it is smelly, obnoxious, filthy, and grossly inconsiderate., not only to those around the smoker, but to those that will occupy the same space in the future (long in the future if it's indoor). It has a big adverse aesthetic impact. I would be pleased if smoking was banned for those reasons alone. However, if people want to chew tobacco, or take it intravenously, I don't care. However, we are bandying about this health thing like a mantra - another example of society protecting us from ourselves, which makes me angry. If I want to put MYSELF in danger, I should be able to. In fact, if I want to harm myself, I should be able to. I should be able to choose my own risk vs. benefit relationship and live with the consequences. Seat belt laws are another example, and the fact that society pays for health care costs of those that choose "wrong" does also enter into this. I could go on for many paragraphs (but won't). I have a lot of respect for the FAA regs inasmuch as they respect the idea that pilots should be able to make their own (informed) risk vs. benefit decisions on their own behalf. The rules are stricter as pilots make these decisions on the behalf of others, as they should be. But from a safety point of view, pilots have an enormous amount of discretion (and responsibility). This security thing turns everything upside down. It takes advantage of the fact that people are ill-informed, and don't really care about the consequences of these decisions, to advance the political agenda of those in power. (have I said anything new here? We're so afraid of our shadows that the most effective thing terrorists could do now is throw shadows. It will shut us down in a week. Jose (for Email, make the obvious changes in my address) |
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