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Mark James Boyd wrote:
, then try the LS-4. Maybe it won't affect your decision, but it might get you to buy wingstands or a gym membership...:P If assembling an LS4 is an issue to you, then you *really* need that membership urgently. Just a suugestion. Stefan |
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Stefan wrote: Mark James Boyd wrote: , then try the LS-4. Maybe it won't affect your decision, but it might get you to buy wingstands or a gym membership...:P If assembling an LS4 is an issue to you, then you *really* need that membership urgently. Just a suugestion. Well, for a LOT of assemblies last year, I had the nicest, greatest crew ever (my towpilot). But he's been doing this about ten million years and ten billion times. It almost killed me to even ask for his help 30 times in the 100 degrees at 8:30 am in the harsh desert. Instead I wanted to let him swing on the hammock and drink an iced tea while reading the paper (as he deserves). Each pound of wing made me wince as this fine example of graceful aging hefted the wingtip in my aid. My God, I'm starting to weep as I write this, oh gentle reader... :'''( So between my very sweet and dainty wife and my much-adored and respected elders (all of whom I want to KEEP as friends), I shall be seeking wings like feathers. Of course, only to the degree my budget and subtle colorful comment begins eternal lust for penetration subtle colorful comment ends allows. And I'm only half-joking...a long car ride with two sweaty crewmembers and me who just lifted 150+ pounds 50 feet and then over a fence doesn't seem so good either... -- ------------+ Mark J. Boyd |
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Well if you are looking for an easy flying glider...you
can't go too far wrong with a Discus, I couldnt agree more. We are using it as the first retractable club glider. We keep them in the trailer rather than the hanger as they are so quick and simple to rig. Typically we can rig all three using just the three pilots in 15 minutes. I think the wings are lighter than the LS4 as they have carbon spars. You can even buy them new still according to Schliechers web site |
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Marc Ramsey wrote: Stefan wrote: Higher premium because of low time in "anything" may make sense, but because of low time in over 35:1 certainly doesn't. If you consider that, here in the US, time in "under 35:1 gliders" often means Schweizer 2-33, it starts to make sense... So how would you classify time in: - Std Libelle (over 35:1) - Grob 103 (over 35:1 ... just) - ASK21 (over 35:1 ... just ... maybe) - Club Libelle (a Std Libelle with fixed UC and bigger cockpit in an effort to reduce it to exactly 35:1 to meet class rules) - PW5 (under 35:1, a little) -- Bruce | 41.1670S | \ spoken | -+- Hoult | 174.8263E | /\ here. | ----------O---------- |
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You could find it a lot easier on the Shemp Hirth web site.
John "OscarCVox" wrote in message ... Well if you are looking for an easy flying glider...you can't go too far wrong with a Discus, I couldnt agree more. We are using it as the first retractable club glider. We keep them in the trailer rather than the hanger as they are so quick and simple to rig. Typically we can rig all three using just the three pilots in 15 minutes. I think the wings are lighter than the LS4 as they have carbon spars. You can even buy them new still according to Schliechers web site |
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I can rig and derig a Nimbus 3 using just a Cobra one man rigging dolly and
I'm fat and 45. If you can't do it with an LS4 may I suggest membership the local lawn bowls or fishing club! Ian "Mark James Boyd" wrote in message news:41422a0f$1@darkstar... In article , Stefan wrote: Mark James Boyd wrote: , then try the LS-4. Maybe it won't affect your decision, but it might get you to buy wingstands or a gym membership...:P If assembling an LS4 is an issue to you, then you *really* need that membership urgently. Just a suugestion. Well, for a LOT of assemblies last year, I had the nicest, greatest crew ever (my towpilot). But he's been doing this about ten million years and ten billion times. It almost killed me to even ask for his help 30 times in the 100 degrees at 8:30 am in the harsh desert. Instead I wanted to let him swing on the hammock and drink an iced tea while reading the paper (as he deserves). Each pound of wing made me wince as this fine example of graceful aging hefted the wingtip in my aid. My God, I'm starting to weep as I write this, oh gentle reader... :'''( So between my very sweet and dainty wife and my much-adored and respected elders (all of whom I want to KEEP as friends), I shall be seeking wings like feathers. Of course, only to the degree my budget and subtle colorful comment begins eternal lust for penetration subtle colorful comment ends allows. And I'm only half-joking...a long car ride with two sweaty crewmembers and me who just lifted 150+ pounds 50 feet and then over a fence doesn't seem so good either... -- ------------+ Mark J. Boyd |
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tango4 wrote:
I can rig and derig a Nimbus 3 using just a Cobra one man rigging dolly and I'm fat and 45. How often do you do this in a plowed field? One of Mark's points, as well as mine, is the potential retrieve difficulty will much affect the pilot new to cross-country flying. A Nimbus 3 isn't likely to inspire the new XC pilot to take ANY chance of landing out. A Nimbus 3 can more easily reach the next airport than, say, a Russia, but in our area that can be little consolation: many airports are too narrow to land that 25 meter wing, so you are forced into a field anyway. I encourage the wannabe cross-country pilot to think about what will be the biggest hinderance to that type of flying, then acquire what will overcome that. It might plenty of L/D, or a light weight glider for easy retrieving, or gungho friends/spouse/kids that like the "pick it out of the field" adventure, or a powered glider. It's not the same for everyone or every place. -- Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA |
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