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Old September 19th 07, 04:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default 787 Story by Dan Rather

NEW YORK — Boeing Co's (BA) new carbon-composite 787
Dreamliner plane may turn out to be unsafe and could lead to
more deaths in crashes, according to a report by veteran
journalist Dan Rather to be broadcast in the United States
on Tuesday.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297248,00.html
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Old September 19th 07, 04:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default 787 Story by Dan Rather

On Sep 19, 10:09 am, FredGarvinMaleProstitute
wrote:
NEW YORK - Boeing Co's (BA) new carbon-composite 787
Dreamliner plane may turn out to be unsafe and could lead to
more deaths in crashes, according to a report by veteran
journalist Dan Rather to be broadcast in the United States
on Tuesday.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297248,00.html


Oooooo.... This is gonna get ugly.

I wonder how much Airbus is paying this guy?
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Old September 19th 07, 04:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default 787 Story by Dan Rather

On Sep 19, 9:17 am, Jay Honeck wrote:
On Sep 19, 10:09 am, FredGarvinMaleProstitute

wrote:
NEW YORK - Boeing Co's (BA) new carbon-composite 787
Dreamliner plane may turn out to be unsafe and could lead to
more deaths in crashes, according to a report by veteran
journalist Dan Rather to be broadcast in the United States
on Tuesday.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297248,00.html


Oooooo.... This is gonna get ugly.

I wonder how much Airbus is paying this guy?
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


Don't worry, I fully expect Boeing to be able to defend their design
with test data. If they couldn't, they wouldn't be able to get it
certified.

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Old September 19th 07, 05:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default 787 Story by Dan Rather

Airbus didn't have to pay a dime. An internal Boeing engineer wrote a 16???
page whistleblower report to the FAA with a lot of stuff that Boeing's top
brass wasn't all that pleased about.

Something about not testing the crashworthiness of the 787 to the same
standards that were required on the 737. A simple drop test of a fuselage
section, with the overhead bins full, with instrumented crash dummies,
dropped from 14 feet onto a concrete floor. And how you can see damage on
metal (dent) while the same damage on glass is generally internal and
invisible. And how metal elongates during a crash absorbing a tremendous
amount of the energy of the crash while glass tears and absorbs little. And
how metal is pretty much fireproof (it melts) while the epoxy in the glass
burns fairly hot and fast.

Anybody got a link to that article's website for Jay?

Jim

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Old September 19th 07, 05:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default 787 Story by Dan Rather

wrote:
On Sep 19, 9:17 am, Jay Honeck wrote:
On Sep 19, 10:09 am, FredGarvinMaleProstitute

wrote:
NEW YORK - Boeing Co's (BA) new carbon-composite 787
Dreamliner plane may turn out to be unsafe and could lead to
more deaths in crashes, according to a report by veteran
journalist Dan Rather to be broadcast in the United States
on Tuesday.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297248,00.html
Oooooo.... This is gonna get ugly.

I wonder how much Airbus is paying this guy?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


Don't worry, I fully expect Boeing to be able to defend their design
with test data. If they couldn't, they wouldn't be able to get it
certified.


Who certifies it??
Oh, the FAA
They are real objective(Cough,Spew,Hurl)

The chances of the FAA shutting down Boeing and the 787 is
about the same chance monkeys will fly out my ass at midnight
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Old September 19th 07, 05:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default 787 Story by Dan Rather

Here ya go...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABP...2003889769.pdf

Jim

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Old September 19th 07, 05:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default 787 Story by Dan Rather

On 19 Sep, 16:17, Jay Honeck wrote:
On Sep 19, 10:09 am, FredGarvinMaleProstitute

wrote:
NEW YORK - Boeing Co's (BA) new carbon-composite 787
Dreamliner plane may turn out to be unsafe and could lead to
more deaths in crashes, according to a report by veteran
journalist Dan Rather to be broadcast in the United States
on Tuesday.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297248,00.html


Oooooo.... This is gonna get ugly.


Interesting. Plastic is not necessarily less robust than
aluminium. Racing cars for example are much safer
now that they are made from Carbon fiber than they
ever were when they were mostly made from aluminiun.

I though suspect that the safety improvement may have largely
come as a consequence of needing to make
the car stiffer for performance reasons. Modern F1 cars are
unbelievably robust. Toxic fumes in the event of fire
are another matter.


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Old September 19th 07, 05:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default 787 Story by Dan Rather


wrote in message
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On Sep 19, 9:17 am, Jay Honeck wrote:
On Sep 19, 10:09 am, FredGarvinMaleProstitute

wrote:
NEW YORK - Boeing Co's (BA) new carbon-composite 787
Dreamliner plane may turn out to be unsafe and could lead to
more deaths in crashes, according to a report by veteran
journalist Dan Rather to be broadcast in the United States
on Tuesday.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297248,00.html


Oooooo.... This is gonna get ugly.

I wonder how much Airbus is paying this guy?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


Don't worry, I fully expect Boeing to be able to defend their design
with test data. If they couldn't, they wouldn't be able to get it
certified.


How many planes have been certified with serious design faults like the
wiring in 747 fuel tanks, duff 737 rudders.
With the FAA role including the promotion of aviation do you really think
that anyone would stop this airplane.
Forget Newton's laws, what makes planes fly is the law of politics and the
only component that cannot be priced too easily is the price of votes in DC.


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Old September 19th 07, 06:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default 787 Story by Dan Rather

RST Engineering wrote:
Here ya go...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABP...2003889769.pdf

Jim

Dang, I thought that was going to be a link to the flight of the monkeys.

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Old September 19th 07, 07:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default 787 Story by Dan Rather

I'm sort of waiting for the utube of that to come out myself.

Jim




Dang, I thought that was going to be a link to the flight of the monkeys.

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