50% of NAZI oil was supplied from US

In article ,
kirill wrote:

"Fred J. McCall" wrote:

(Michael Petukhov) wrote:

:http://www1.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_art...=16866&lang=ru
:
in russian)
:
:The article discuss the oil balance of NAZI Germany in 37 - june 44.
:The funny side is that some 50% of oil and petrolium products
:were supplied by US based companies (the standard oil of New Jersey,
:the standard oil of California and the Davis oil company) mainly via
:Spain. This includes 100% of oil supply for NAZI subs operating in
:Atlantic. All these operations were authorised by US government.

That's because we were a NEUTRAL until the end of 1941, Michael. You
do understand what that means, don't you?

Dipwad loser. The British weren't neutral and you were their alleged
allies. Retard.

Kirill, until December of 1941, the U.S. was officially neutral. We not
legally their allies, requiring convenient fictions like Lend Lease, to
get around the official neutrality.

In article ,
kirill wrote:

JÜrg Bihlmayr wrote:

Michael Petukhov schrieb:

http://www1.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_art...=16866&lang=ru

(in russian)

The article discuss the oil balance of NAZI Germany in 37 - june 44.
The funny side is that some 50% of oil and petrolium products
were supplied by US based companies (the standard oil of New Jersey,
the standard oil of California and the Davis oil company) mainly via
Spain. This includes 100% of oil supply for NAZI subs operating in
Atlantic. All these operations were authorised by US government.

Care to mention, who the other big supplier of oil to Germany until 1941
was?

Pathetic attempt at diversion from a lamer. The USSR was a big supplier
of grain to Germany before 1941. It simply does not compare in the sort
of industrial and oil assistance offered the Nazis by eager western
companies (mainly American ones such as Ford and GM).

Yeah, you guys (Soviets) were just the main supplier of oil to Germany
from the time the U.S. entered the war until Barbarossa.

In article ,
362436 (Ron) wrote:

ipwad loser. The British weren't neutral and you were their alleged
:allies. Retard.

Go read some history. The US was a neutral until December of 1941.
We were *NOT* British allies at that point in time, alleged or
otherwise.

I would not go quite that far. We were helping the British in many ways,
prior to Dec 1941

Generally using fictions such as Lend Lease to get around the official
neutral position.

"ZZBunker" wrote in message
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Rick wrote in message
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ZZBunker wrote:

You are obviously lying. Since submarines don't even don't
use oil that is made by mass marketers.


Pray tell just what kind of fuel did Diesel boats use?

Did I say fuel? No. Which is you look closely
you'll notice that all NAZI subs are now
in thier in own special parking lot,
1,000 fathoms down and just a slight hard right
from the street called Reality.

You are aware, are you not, that there are many (perhaps dozens?) of
WWII U-Boats above sea level and on display in various spots on Planet
Earth? That...is Reality.

Cheers.

Date: 10/17/2003 12:48 AM Central Daylight Time
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snip

"Out of 556 important functionaries of the Bolshevik State. . .
There Were in 1918-1919: 457 Jews
17 Russians, 2 Ukrainians, 11 Armenians, 35 Letts, 15 Germans, 1
Hungarian, 10 Georgians, 3 Poles, 3 Finns, 1 Karaim."

The Last Days of the Romanovs, by Robert Wilton. Introduction by Mark
Weber. Institute for Historical Review, 1993.

"The whole record of Bolshevism in Russia is indelibly impressed with
the stamp of alien invasion. The murder of the Tsar, deliberately
planned by the Jew Sverdlov (who came to Russia as a paid agent of
Germany) and carried out by the Jews Goloshchekin, Syromolotov,
Safarov, Voikov and Yurovsky, is the act not of the Russian people,
but of this hostile invader."ibid

snip a bunch of drivel

Even if what you say about Jews being the killers of the Romanovs, a major
force in the Bolshevik revolution etc. That doesn't have anything to do with
what was said about Stalin's butchery. Sure Stalin wouldn't have been in power
if not for the October Revolution etc. but he was also antisemitic, anti God,
exnophobic, paranoid, sociopathic and a mass murderer in the extreme.

Your claim that the Jews were invaders is false. Jews had been in Eastern
Europe and Russia for a very long time. The ones who lived in Russia were just
as Russian as any other citizen.

The source you cited probably finds Jews behind every tree and blames them for
everything negative he percieves.

Stop blaming the Germans, Jews, foreigners etc. for the slaughter of many
millions of human beings by the Soviets with Stalin as head. Next you will
blame the Chinese Communist revolution, the Great Leap Forward and Cultural
Revolution with the millions of associated deaths on Jews.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Jörg Bihlmayr wrote in message ...
Michael Petukhov schrieb:

http://www1.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_art...=16866&lang=ru

(in russian)

The article discuss the oil balance of NAZI Germany in 37 - june 44.
The funny side is that some 50% of oil and petrolium products
were supplied by US based companies (the standard oil of New Jersey,
the standard oil of California and the Davis oil company) mainly via
Spain. This includes 100% of oil supply for NAZI subs operating in
Atlantic. All these operations were authorised by US government.

Care to mention, who the other big supplier of oil to Germany until 1941
was?

Jörg

Do you mean USSR? Sure it was suppling some products including oil.
Unfortunately the article does not report actual numbers which
as far as I remember were within 1-2 mil tons/year in 40. I think
it is due to the subject of the article, the US supply to NAZI
germany. Although there are data on Germany oil balance by the
end of 1941:

Germany total oil demand: 16 mil tons/year
Strategic reserve: 10 mil tons/year
Germany production of synthetic petrolium: 5 mil tons/year
Import from Rumania and Hungary: 6 mil. tons/year
Import from S.Africa via Mediterranean ports: 3 mil tons/year
Import via Standard and Davis: 6 mil tons/year
plus unaccounted refuelling of german subs in South America ports
by EuroTank company (Davis)

Nobody says that USSR was innocent of NAZI collaboration in 39-41.
But US was no better than USSR in that respect. Moreover the fact
is that Hitler was receiving the lion's share of the oil form
western, mainly US, sources in the period of 37-44.

Michael



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If you must feed them:

Change the title; remove cross postings; remove all reference to them;
write a completely uninflamatory few lines that touch -as this does,
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What you must aim for is removing his name and fame. Next remove his
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Hm. It will not work. Simply because I post interesting things.
even you cannot ignore it.

Michael

On or about Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:49:28 -0700, Steve Hix
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In article ,
kirill wrote:

JÜrg Bihlmayr wrote:

Michael Petukhov schrieb:

http://www1.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_art...=16866&lang=ru

(in russian)

The article discuss the oil balance of NAZI Germany in 37 - june 44.
The funny side is that some 50% of oil and petrolium products
were supplied by US based companies (the standard oil of New Jersey,
the standard oil of California and the Davis oil company) mainly via
Spain. This includes 100% of oil supply for NAZI subs operating in
Atlantic. All these operations were authorised by US government.

Care to mention, who the other big supplier of oil to Germany until 1941
was?

Pathetic attempt at diversion from a lamer. The USSR was a big supplier
of grain to Germany before 1941. It simply does not compare in the sort
of industrial and oil assistance offered the Nazis by eager western
companies (mainly American ones such as Ford and GM).

Yeah, you guys (Soviets) were just the main supplier of oil to Germany
from the time the U.S. entered the war until Barbarossa.

Err, wasn't Barbarossa (June 22 1941) *before* the entry of the US
(December 7 1941)?

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Peter Kemp

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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"John Mullen" wrote in message
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"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
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Heck, prior to the outbreak of war, the Soviet Union was supplying
Nazi Germany with oil.

Among other things. In fact as German soliders rolled east on railway
cars
in
preparation for BARBAROSA, Soviet rail cars were flowing west full of
material
for Nazi Germany.

So to speak. Although, in fact they had different rail gauges so that
isn't
literally true..


The gauge change happened at the Russian frontier. Since the
border between Nazi and Soviet territory ran through the
centre of Poland it is literally the case that trains packed with
Soviet material were heading West even as the Germans invaded.

ISWYM. Misread the previous message, sorry.

John

"PosterBoy" wrote in message news:UBMkb.133877$pl3.9483@pd7tw3no...
"ZZBunker" wrote in message
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Rick wrote in message
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ZZBunker wrote:

You are obviously lying. Since submarines don't even don't
use oil that is made by mass marketers.


Pray tell just what kind of fuel did Diesel boats use?

Did I say fuel? No. Which is you look closely
you'll notice that all NAZI subs are now
in thier in own special parking lot,
1,000 fathoms down and just a slight hard right
from the street called Reality.

You are aware, are you not, that there are many (perhaps dozens?) of
WWII U-Boats above sea level and on display in various spots on Planet
Earth? That...is Reality.

Yes I am aware of that. amd I'm also aware of the
realiy tidbit, that just about all of those
U-Boats are *Hilter's* doing, not the German *Navy's*.
Since for the most part, the German *Navy* didn't even
want those U-Boats.



Cheers.