NTSB prelim report out

"Doug Haluza" wrote in message
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Paul Buchanan wrote:
I have a question which the report doesn't clarify.

What type of airspace was the glider and bizjet flying
in at the time?

Controlled or VFR?

Paul Buchanan

http://www.glidingstuff.co.nz

Should have been class G. Glider was VFR, Jet was IFR in VMC.

Doug.. wouldn't it be Class E above 14,500MSL?

BT

Paul Buchanan wrote:
I have a question which the report doesn't clarify.

What type of airspace was the glider and bizjet flying
in at the time?

Controlled or VFR?


Almost certainly IFR as they were descending from positive
control altitudes. It's rare (but not unheard) for bizjets
to not be operating IFR.

BTIZ wrote:
Paul, in the US, it can be "IFR controlled" and "VFR", where VFR aircraft
such as the glider can roam freely in VFR (Visual Flight Rules) or VMC
(Visual Meteorological Conditions) in the same airspace that IFR ATC
controlled traffic can be, the altitudes reported have been 13,500 to 16,500
MSL when they hit.

Actually there is a third category: IFR in uncontrolled airspace.
ATC can not provide control in class G airspace. However, there
is precious little of that in the at any altitude above a few
thousand feet AGL.

I have a question which the report doesn't clarify.

What type of airspace was the glider and bizjet flying
in at the time?

Controlled or VFR?

Almost certainly IFR as they were descending from positive
control altitudes. It's rare (but not unheard) for bizjets
to not be operating IFR.

I'm sure you speak only of the BizJet.. the glider was VFR and not under ATC
control and not required to be under ATC control.

BT

Greg,
Very interesting indeed. If you have a transponder in your aircraft,
it needs to be ON. FAR91.215.c.(unless I am reading it wrong).. Much
different that not having a transponder, definitely NOT required in
that airspace.
Lucky that no one was killed. I feel sorry for the glider owner
that cared enough about safety to equip his sailplane with a
transponder yet it wasn't used during the flight.

Dean