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Roman J. Rohleder schrieb:
Germany contributed 18 billion DM cash for GWII plus military gear and equipment. Thats pretty much above "Zilch". Examples for equipment contribution: 8000h Transall transport flights, 200 train loads for allied troops, 60 Fuchs tanks to the US army, 11 to the UK troops. Patriot batteries delivered to Israel and Turkey, plus Leopard I tanks to Turkey. 100000 gas masks and suits agains chemical warfare to Israel. AFAIK one of the Patriot battery stayed in Israel until today. Two batteries have been delivered there in January this year. (2 billion in fall 1990, the rest during the build-up in early 1991). And a example for active military contribution - the Bundesmarine sweeped the Persian Gulf from mines just after the war and Special Ships cleaned it from leaking oil.. So.. "Nada" contribution? I wish we had this money today.. Gruss, Roman |
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the Iraq/Iran
conflict (GWI), Desert Storm (GWII) and the one called "Iraqi Freedom" (GWIII). Ah, Roman, but the post said referred to YOUR (i.e. American) Gulf War 2. I would quote it exactly but there's an obscenity in there that children shouldn't see. (And I judge from the quality of the debate that a lot of children post here.) Gulf I = 1991 Gulf II = 2003 Don't worry. Americans don't regard Germans as utterly contemptible in this matter. That's reserved for the French. It will be a long time changing, too, I think. all the best -- Dan Ford email: see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com |
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Cub Driver wrote: We (germany) already payed your ****in 2nd Gulf War. Really? It was my impression that you paid zilch = nichts = nada = zip. You have certainly kept your largesse secret from the rest of the world. Also, you still owe us for World War I and World War II, after each of which unpleasantness the American taxpayer rebuilt your heel-clicking country. I especially liked the aftermath of WWI. The U.S. sent the money to Germany, which cashed the check and sent it along to Britain in war reparations. Much the same thing will happen in Iraq. We will send billions to Iraq, which will cash the check and send the money along to the German, French, and Russian companies that supplied Saddam's war machine. Yeah right. Read the cover article in this week's newsweek and see where the money's going. Not to France, Germany or Russia. Europe! The loose federation of free-loaders! (Don Rumsfeld's useful distinction between Old Europe and New Europe should be mentioned here. The peripheral states--Poland, Spain, and Britain notably among them--are not so pompously selfish as the central axis of France and Germany, with their ancillary organs like the Dutch marching band.) I understand your admiration for the Dutch `Marinierskapel' or the `Luchtmachtorkest'. It's part of a tradition going back a few hundred years and `esprit de corps' (yes, I know, that's French). However, your comments seem to indicate you have some sort of beef with the Netherlands (which supported the War in Iraq by the way, against the will of the majority of it's population, flew more combat missions over Kosovo than the UK and participated in operations in Afghanistan as part of `The war against terror'). Why do you keep bringing up 'the Dutch marching band'? Is it some vague reference to Dutch Peace Keepers in Srebrenica perhaps? If so, I'd love to read your opinion on that. Regards, Ralph Savelsberg |
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Also, you still owe us for World War I and World War II, after each of
which unpleasantness the American taxpayer rebuilt your heel-clicking country. I especially liked the aftermath of WWI. The U.S. sent the money to Germany, which cashed The value of German technology stolen after WWII is estimated to be 1300 Billion current dollars. Imagine what would happen if US had spent this amount to develop the technology?. (Don Rumsfeld's useful distinction between Old Europe and New Europe should be mentioned here. The peripheral states--Poland, Spain, and Britain notably among them--are Rumsfeld is probably only man in Washington DC that understands whats going on in the world. The struggle is not between US and Europa or US and Iraq ,Afghanistan or whatever 3rd world country,struggle is between the Global Military Power and Global Financial Power. To win the struggle the Global Military Power needs decisive (historical)military victories everywhere. But to defeat the Global Military Power,the Global Financial Power needs only one thing,namely to prove that the "proceeds" of decisive historical military victories of the Global Military Power are not sufficent. Not very promising situation for the Global Military Power. |
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:47:31 +0100, "Gerd Koegler" wrote:
Cub Driver wrote: The more or less final (some would say "cooked") figures are in, and Europe's performance is not entirely as shabby as I earlier posted. Japan says it will provide $5 billion, including $3.5 billion in loans (as if Iraq needed any more of those, after what Germany, France, and Russia extended to Saddam Hussein so that he could advance his mischief). Saudi Arabia says $1 billion, most or all of it loans. The European Union has upped its claim to $826 million. Dunno how much of that is real, but couldn't it at least have matched the Saudis? Stop whining. We (germany) already payed your ****in 2nd Gulf War. You, sir, are a fool. You have absolutely no idea of the costs of OIF, or the fact that Germany was too cowardly to commit troops, money, or any other form of support. And juvenile. foul language only makes you look more idiotic. Al Minyard |
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"Alan Minyard" a écrit dans le message de news: ... You, sir, are a fool. You have absolutely no idea of the costs of OIF, or the fact that Germany was too cowardly to commit troops, money, or any other form of support. And juvenile. foul language only makes you look more idiotic. Al Minyard He needs foul language to look idiotic. And you sir just need to open your mouth to look idiotic. -- _________________________________________ Pierre-Henri BARAS Co-webmaster de French Fleet Air Arm http://www.ffaa.net Encyclopédie de l'Aviation sur le web http://www.aviation-fr.info |
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:14:46 -0500, Cub Driver wrote:
(Don Rumsfeld's useful distinction between Old Europe and New Europe should be mentioned here. The peripheral states--Poland, Spain, and Britain notably among them--are not so pompously selfish as the central axis of France and Germany, with their ancillary organs like the Dutch marching band.) Yes, the Germans are so selfish they are the major net contributors to the EU. But feel free not to let reality get in the way of your bigotry. -- "It's easier to find people online who openly support the KKK than people who openly support the RIAA" -- comment on Wikipedia (Email: , but first subtract 275 and reverse the last two letters). |
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You, sir, are a fool. You have absolutely no idea of the costs
of OIF, or the fact that Germany was too cowardly to commit troops, money, or any other form of support. And juvenile. foul language only makes you look more idiotic. Al Minyard He needs foul language to look idiotic. And you sir just need to open your mouth to look idiotic. |
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The value of German technology stolen after WWII is estimated to be 1300
Billion current dollars. Source? Secret documents that will be released 50 years from now Ron Pilot/Wildland Firefighter |
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