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Old April 22nd 05, 03:12 PM
Mike Rapoport
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Dave Stadt" wrote

Get used to it, China is the up and coming manufacturing world power.

They
will do what Japan did in the '60s and '70s at a scale that will make
what
Japan did look like childs play.


I know, but I DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT.

I CERTAINLY don't have to buy it.

Is this same thing happening in Europe?

How many years will it be until China's quality comes up, like Japan
finally
did?
--
Jim in NC


It isn't important whether anybody likes it or not, what is important is
realize that it is inevitable and change what and how we do things so we do
not compete where we are at a major disadvantage.

Mike
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Old April 22nd 05, 03:15 PM
Mike Rapoport
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:

Get used to it, China is the up and coming manufacturing world power.
They
will do what Japan did in the '60s and '70s at a scale that will make
what
Japan did look like childs play.


Yes, but they also will likely suffer the same fate as Japan when their
costs catch up to the rest of the world.

Matt


Given that only a small percentage of Chineese are participating in their
"new" economy, it will be a long time before this happens. Remember that
Japan's economy stalled after they became (and remain) the richest developed
nation on a per capita basis.

Mike
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  #313  
Old April 22nd 05, 03:35 PM
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Dylan Smith writes:

I also observed when I was living in the US, soccer tended to be a
girl's game - as did field hockey (to the extent that I read in a
newspaper a couple of years ago how a boy who wanted to play hockey had
to wear the girl's uniform, including a skirt, to play it...)


Field hockey is definitely considered a woman's sport here (you can find coed
club teams but generally with European men). Soccer, though, is equally
embraced by men and women (at least where I live on the east coast).

Dan.

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Old April 22nd 05, 03:39 PM
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
m...

Good Lord help us all! I suppose they will be made with China steel.
That
is the softest, inconsistent crap have ever seen, let alone all the

other
made in China crap.
--
Jim in NC


Get used to it, China is the up and coming manufacturing world power.

They
will do what Japan did in the '60s and '70s at a scale that will make what
Japan did look like childs play.


At lest Japan make quality improves measured as orders of magnitude. In 40
years "Madein Japan" went from being synonymous with junk to some of the
highest quality goods in the world.

China doesn't have the underlying structures and while some of their
handmade goods are well done (the stuff competing against US and other
manufacturers) their still way behind the eight ball. Also, remember that
Japan's cronyism caused their catastrophic collapse. At least Japan has
innovation and technical expertise.

Oh, and China is experiencing a massive captial OUTFLOW right now that shows
no sign of abbating.


--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO




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Old April 22nd 05, 03:41 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Dave Stadt" wrote

Get used to it, China is the up and coming manufacturing world power.

They
will do what Japan did in the '60s and '70s at a scale that will make

what
Japan did look like childs play.


I know, but I DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT.

I CERTAINLY don't have to buy it.

Is this same thing happening in Europe?

How many years will it be until China's quality comes up, like Japan

finally
did?


It won't come up on the order that Japan's did because China still competes
98% on CHEAP, which is why so much of their labor, in the workers paradise,
is virtually slave labor. That's real slavery, not the crap the union and
leftist croak about.


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Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO


  #316  
Old April 22nd 05, 03:43 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
link.net...

It isn't important whether anybody likes it or not, what is important is
realize that it is inevitable and change what and how we do things so we

do
not compete where we are at a major disadvantage.


America cannot compete on CHEAP, only on quality and bang-for-the-buck, but
that's another area that America has squandered.

Americans want to live like capitalists, but work like socialists. Sorry,
that dog don't hunt.


--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO



  #317  
Old April 22nd 05, 03:45 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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Given that only a small percentage of Chineese are participating in their
"new" economy, it will be a long time before this happens. Remember that
Japan's economy stalled after they became (and remain) the richest

developed
nation on a per capita basis.


Even after their economy puked, what, 2/3rds of it's value?
--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO


  #318  
Old April 22nd 05, 03:47 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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http://www.hotze.priv.at/album/aviation/caution.jpg


In fact our own government says airport security has not improved since

9/11
and in fact the current government run security is not as effective as was
the privately run security. This is no surprise to me.


Both versions were Magneau lines of defense.


  #319  
Old April 22nd 05, 03:48 PM
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
news:we7ae.2967$Xg.2528@okepread02...

"Peter" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
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We have some fast trains too but we can't get them to stop so they have
been mothballed for a while.


The Boston to Washington high speed train is not running due to not

being
able to get brake parts. Anybody know where that train is made?


According to the news report on the brake rotors they come from the
consortium of Canada's Bombardier and France's Alstom.



So it is the France and French Canadian's fault. THat explains things.


No, it's Bombardier's and Alstrom's fault.



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Old April 22nd 05, 03:53 PM
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
news:we7ae.2967$Xg.2528@okepread02...

"Peter" wrote in message
...
Dave Stadt wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
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We have some fast trains too but we can't get them to stop so they
have
been mothballed for a while.


The Boston to Washington high speed train is not running due to not

being
able to get brake parts. Anybody know where that train is made?

According to the news report on the brake rotors they come from the
consortium of Canada's Bombardier and France's Alstom.



So it is the France and French Canadian's fault. THat explains things.


No, it's Bombardier's and Alstrom's fault.



Jesus, it was a joke Mat.


 




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