If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#11
|
|||
|
|||
Salto Tooling.
On Dec 17, 8:24*pm, Guy wrote:
So Al..... You are going to make Saltos in your basement just like Mrs. Hanle? Going to hire unemployed aeronautical engineers to do the layups in your basement? Use the hot tub for a curing oven? Certify your all carbon Saltos for +/- 10G? All for $30,000? Control system and canopy are extra? Sign me up. Guy Well imagine the following scenario.... We create a Co-Op for the production of the plane. In order to buy one you become a member of the Co-Op. The Co-Op only charges for costs not profit. If you can contribute work to the Co-Op then you get a discount against the labour rate etc.etc. The Co-Op will hire X number of people to do the production on a full time basis. So in order to get started we would need to raise some capital to buy the tooling, setup a production area and sell initial seed units to first set of Co-Op members. Also thinking give the wing section a refresh to something more modern and start to add carbon into the build as well. We could call it the Volksglider Just a crazy pipe dream right now but as the worlds supply of reasonable priced planes dries up this could become a viable option. How many would you like to order Guy? Cheers Al |
#12
|
|||
|
|||
Salto Tooling.
On Dec 17, 11:16*am, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
Al, if you can get the tooling I'd be glad to help you figure out how to make them out of carbon... While you're at it Bob, go get the LS-4b tooling. See ya, Dave "YO electric" |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
Salto Tooling.
You could name it the PW-5.1 Maybe set up a world class racing scheme
around the glider... Seriously -- go for it. |
#14
|
|||
|
|||
Salto Tooling.
|
#15
|
|||
|
|||
Salto Tooling.
Al,
So, you are looking at a similar approach the "Chicago five" use in their HP-11 assembly line. http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/HP...ive_HP-11s.htm Notice item 7 in the "Joint Venture Agreement." http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/HP...1A_Project.htm Wayne HP-14 "6F" http://tinyurl.com/N990-6F wrote in message ... On Dec 17, 8:24 pm, Guy wrote: Well imagine the following scenario.... We create a Co-Op for the production of the plane. In order to buy one you become a member of the Co-Op. The Co-Op only charges for costs not profit. If you can contribute work to the Co-Op then you get a discount against the labour rate etc.etc. The Co-Op will hire X number of people to do the production on a full time basis. So in order to get started we would need to raise some capital to buy the tooling, setup a production area and sell initial seed units to first set of Co-Op members. Also thinking give the wing section a refresh to something more modern and start to add carbon into the build as well. We could call it the Volksglider Just a crazy pipe dream right now but as the worlds supply of reasonable priced planes dries up this could become a viable option. How many would you like to order Guy? Cheers Al |
#16
|
|||
|
|||
Salto Tooling.
On Dec 18, 4:38*am, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Dec 17, 11:16*am, Bob Kuykendall wrote: Al, if you can get the tooling I'd be glad to help you figure out how to make them out of carbon... While you're at it Bob, go get the LS-4b tooling. See ya, Dave "YO electric" I pretty much have its equivalent at this point. If I painted "LS4" on the side of an unflapped HP-24 ship you couldn't tell it wasn't so until you got pretty close. Thanks, Bob K. |
#17
|
|||
|
|||
Salto Tooling.
I have nothing against pipe-dreams, but lets make it a good pipe-dream
with LS-4 performance. We wouldn't call it an LS-4 of course, following the Centrair example out company would be something like Trendtrair and we would be producing a MS-4. Don't really need carbon, glass is much easier for unskilled hands to work with. But we need a selling point, how about one of those Front Electric Sustainers and a Ballistic Chute.with automatic hook-ups of course. Pipe-dream over, I feel much better now. JJ Ops, forgot one thing. We need a test pilot to fly our MS-4 built in a basement by the unskilled supervised by the untrained..............................Al? |
#18
|
|||
|
|||
Salto Tooling.
On Dec 18, 1:05*am, "
wrote: On Dec 17, 8:24*pm, Guy wrote: So Al..... You are going to make Saltos in your basement just like Mrs. Hanle? Going to hire unemployed aeronautical engineers to do the layups in your basement? Use the hot tub for a curing oven? Certify your all carbon Saltos for +/- 10G? All for $30,000? Control system and canopy are extra? Sign me up. Guy Well imagine the following scenario.... We create a Co-Op for the production of the plane. In order to buy one you become a member of the Co-Op. The Co-Op only charges for costs not profit. If you can contribute work to the Co-Op then you get a discount against the labour rate etc.etc. The Co-Op will hire X number of people to do the production on a full time basis. So in order to get started we would need to raise some capital to buy the tooling, setup a production area and sell initial seed units to first set of Co-Op members. Also thinking give the wing section a refresh to something more modern and start to add carbon into the build as well. We could call it the Volksglider Just a crazy pipe dream right now but as the worlds supply of reasonable priced planes dries up this could become a viable option. How many would you like to order Guy? Cheers Al Gentlemen, place your bets..............what will fly first, Al's carbon Salto or my HP-24? What were the performance specs of the Salto? I thought a sub 15m under 40:1 ship was not what pilots wanted. Brad |
#19
|
|||
|
|||
Salto Tooling.
On Dec 18, 10:12*am, JJ Sinclair wrote:
I have nothing against pipe-dreams, but lets make it a good pipe-dream with LS-4 performance. We wouldn't call it an LS-4 of course, following the Centrair example out company would be something like Trendtrair and we would be producing a MS-4. Don't really need carbon, glass is much easier for unskilled hands to work with. But we need a selling point, how about one of those Front Electric Sustainers and a Ballistic Chute.with automatic hook-ups of course. Pipe-dream over, I feel much better now. JJ Ops, forgot one thing. We need a test pilot to fly our MS-4 built in a basement by the unskilled supervised by the untrained..............................Al? Instead of an MS-4, how about a "Rent-Us"? Oh, wait.... -T8 |
#20
|
|||
|
|||
Salto Tooling.
On Dec 18, 7:17*am, Brad wrote:
On Dec 18, 1:05*am, " wrote: On Dec 17, 8:24*pm, Guy wrote: So Al..... You are going to make Saltos in your basement just like Mrs. Hanle? Going to hire unemployed aeronautical engineers to do the layups in your basement? Use the hot tub for a curing oven? Certify your all carbon Saltos for +/- 10G? All for $30,000? Control system and canopy are extra? Sign me up. Guy Well imagine the following scenario.... We create a Co-Op for the production of the plane. In order to buy one you become a member of the Co-Op. The Co-Op only charges for costs not profit. If you can contribute work to the Co-Op then you get a discount against the labour rate etc.etc. The Co-Op will hire X number of people to do the production on a full time basis. So in order to get started we would need to raise some capital to buy the tooling, setup a production area and sell initial seed units to first set of Co-Op members. Also thinking give the wing section a refresh to something more modern and start to add carbon into the build as well. We could call it the Volksglider Just a crazy pipe dream right now but as the worlds supply of reasonable priced planes dries up this could become a viable option. How many would you like to order Guy? Cheers Al Gentlemen, place your bets..............what will fly first, Al's carbon Salto or my HP-24? What were the performance specs of the Salto? I thought a sub 15m under 40:1 ship was not what pilots wanted. Brad Well the Salto plugs up to 15.5M plus with an up to date airfoil would easily break the 40:1 barrier. Plus you can take the tips off it and pull G's till you puke |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Jet powered Salto | Bob C[_2_] | Soaring | 0 | August 8th 08 02:40 PM |
Salto | [email protected] | Soaring | 5 | November 2nd 06 02:26 PM |
Airframe finishing and tooling | nondem | Home Built | 10 | May 26th 06 02:15 AM |
10 Sailplane Kits Tooling and Manufacture Rights For Sale | MavrikChat | Soaring | 0 | April 23rd 04 02:53 AM |
UAL Aircraft Tooling For Sale!! Priced well below market!! | Scott Pirong | Products | 0 | April 21st 04 02:29 PM |