Reverse seeding (USA)

Then Tonapah could have twelve regionals every year!)

At 15:18 31 March 2004, John Cochrane wrote:
Here's a creative solution to the seeding issue. There
is no reason
that the region that organizes the contest has to be
the region where
the contest is flown. Why not run the (say) 'region
2 regionals' in
Parowan? As an analogy, UK pilots annually put on
a 'national
contest' in Spain.

Then the group of pilots who gets their act together
to organize the
thing can get priority to fly it. Organizers are a
much more scarce
commodity than airports.

The rules are decidedly vague. They say that priority
goes to pilots
from 'the region' but they do not define 'the region.'
They don't say
you can do this, but they don't say you can't either.

John Cochrane

Come on guys, the system is clearly broken. Why KS is putting it on and won't
be allowed to compete. Something needs to be done to rectify this intolerable
situation.
JJ Sinclair

Or just have the First Annual Parowan Soaring Contest -- no regional at all.

I think the real problem with Parowan is not seeding, but that the
contest turned out to be so popular. I wonder if the organizers wish,
in hindsight, they had split the classes between two separate contests
on adjoining weeks.


John Cochrane wrote:

Here's a creative solution to the seeding issue. There is no reason
that the region that organizes the contest has to be the region where
the contest is flown. Why not run the (say) "region 2 regionals" in
Parowan? As an analogy, UK pilots annually put on a "national
contest" in Spain.

Then the group of pilots who gets their act together to organize the
thing can get priority to fly it. Organizers are a much more scarce
commodity than airports.

The rules are decidedly vague. They say that priority goes to pilots
from "the region" but they do not define "the region." They don't say
you can do this, but they don't say you can't either.

John Cochrane

"JJ Sinclair" wrote in message
...
Come on guys, the system is clearly broken. Why KS is putting it on and
won't
be allowed to compete. Something needs to be done to rectify this
intolerable
situation.
JJ Sinclai

I think you're wrong again about KS. The SSA web shows his ranking as 100
pts, same as Gary Ittner. If he wants to fly Std or 15M, he would make the
cut right now, just like Gary Ittner has. (If he does this, though, John
Sinclair would be the man on the bubble who gets bumped.)

If the point you raise above, even if incorrectly so, were really a frequent
problem, and people think it is important for the contest organizer to be
able to fly in his contest, it would be a simple enough matter to give the
organizer preference.

Why haven't you bitched about the preference for foreign pilots? There are
four foreign pilots spoiling your desires in addition to the seven "reverse
seeded" Sports pilots?

I think the real problem with Parowan is not seeding,
but that
the
contest turned out to be so popular.

Gosh, I would think KS should be congratulated for
putting the effort into organizing this at such a great
venue. And double thanks for having so many newbies
getting exposed to racing.

There is another Region 9 contest at Hobbs for those
out-of-region types who are going to get bumped.

Good point, I didn't realize they were not doing an Open Class.
I guess with space for only 50 pilots they had to put some limits somewhere.
Hope to see you up at Region 8.

Brian


Well, one of the problems for those of us flying gliders that don't
have a class is that if we want to fly a contest in Parowan we have to
fly Sports Class and the reverse seeding hammers you. If I owned 3
gliders and could fly any class it wouldn 't be a problem, however
since I fly a Nimbus 3 and have to do it in Sports class, recognizing
that the handicap would keep me from winning, I am currently 77th out
of 80 current entrants.