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  #71  
Old September 20th 07, 09:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Montblack
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("Matt Barrow" wrote)
Those meds, BTW, are a second run at fixing the tumor that I had removed a
bit over a year ago. Evidently, the docs didn't get everything, so they
have to go in again. If that doesn't get it, I'm really in deep doodoo.

So, I either have to knock of the groups where attention span is critical,
or knock off the meds. Unfortunately, that latter isn't an option.

Again, my apologies to Dud' and Jim [even the poophead he can be :~), ]
and we'll see you when recovery is complete.

Thanks for some very interesting conversation and information.



I call one of the headsets.

What? What' I say? :-)


Paul
Good luck and have a speedy recovery!

BTW, and apropos of absolutely nothing, is the Mrs. a looker? g


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Old September 20th 07, 11:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Matt Barrow wrote:

we'll see you when recovery is complete.



Best wishes and hurry back!
  #73  
Old September 20th 07, 12:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sep 19, 11:48 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Larry Dighera wrote :

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:14:35 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote in
:


You could get a decent snap out of the 8A by breaking the stall ...


I don't recall the Luscomb nor the Taylorcraft being certified for
aerobatics. Did you two fellows have an FAA waiver for aerobatics in
the aircraft in question, or were they registered in the experimental
category?


Get a grip Larry. All aircraft built before 49 are allowed to do
aerobatics. Some cub handbooks has directions on how to do loops.

Bertie


I routinely did +G maneuvers in my '46 BC12D back in the 60's... I
saw it again recently, still flying and looks good...

denny

  #74  
Old September 20th 07, 06:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Montblack" wrote in message
...
("Matt Barrow" wrote)
When someone points it out, he runs home to mommy.



I do believe 'Morgans' can give you the actual time & date that he last
"ran" anywhere.


Nope.

That would have been before written history was recorded! g
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Jim in NC


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Old September 20th 07, 07:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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("Morgans" wrote)
Nope.

That would have been before written history was recorded! g



And here I thought it was that time, a few years ago, you fell off the
roof/scaffold/ladder...


Montblack


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Old September 20th 07, 07:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Denny wrote in
ups.com:

On Sep 19, 11:48 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Larry Dighera wrote
:

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:14:35 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote in
:


You could get a decent snap out of the 8A by breaking the stall ...


I don't recall the Luscomb nor the Taylorcraft being certified for
aerobatics. Did you two fellows have an FAA waiver for aerobatics
in the aircraft in question, or were they registered in the
experimental category?


Get a grip Larry. All aircraft built before 49 are allowed to do
aerobatics. Some cub handbooks has directions on how to do loops.

Bertie


I routinely did +G maneuvers in my '46 BC12D back in the 60's... I
saw it again recently, still flying and looks good...


Mine's still flying too. Nice thing about wooden spars is if you don't
crack them doing whatever mad maneuver you might try they are just as
strong the next time you fly, unlike a tin airplane..


They were nice airplanes. I'd love to try a clip wing somtime. A much
better contender for a modern aerobatic trainer than the Champ ever
was..


Bertie



  #77  
Old September 20th 07, 10:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sep 17, 10:29 am, wrote:
Hello all,

I just wanted to see if other CFIs and pilots have been seeing the
same trend I have. I've been flying with a student for a little over a
year now, and she's almost ready to solo. It will take her another
year to get her ticket, for a total of 2 years, and probably 100 - 120
hours total, when done. Why? Because she's a busy CPA, and sometimes
cannot fly for periods of up to a month. Obviously if a student pilot
hasn't flown for a month, much of the next lesson is simply brushing
off the rust.

I've talked to a couple other local CFIs about this, and they have
noticed a similar trend. As the cost of flight training has gone up
(schools near mine cost approximately $130-$140 per hour, wet, with
CFI), we have seen a seeming increase in the number of early mid-life
(30-50 years old) professionals (CPAs, lawyers, doctors, etc.) taking
lessons, because to them, money isn't a major issue. But TIME is. One
CFI told me he has been working with a well-known doctor for over 2
years, and he probably won't take his checkride for another 1-2 years,
simply because he cannot fly often. But, like my student, he really
DOES want to fly, and DOES want to get their ticket. I talked to my
student about this, and she's fine with taking 2 years.

So is this becoming a trend? Two years or more to get a PP-ASEL, start
to finish? And does this mean that it might be necessary to modify the
traditional PP-ASEL curriculum to better meet the needs of these
students?

Just wanted to hear what other thought.

Cheers,


I'm one of those guys. A software engineer, was in my late 30's when
I did my PPL, and it took me 80 hours over 2 years to earn my PPL. I
scheduled one flight a week, on the weekend, and about half of them
would be cancelled due to weather, mechanical problems, etc, so in
reality I usually flew twice a month. Oh yeah, and 9/11 happened
during my first year of flight training and my home airport is within
10 miles of a nuke plant. Feh.

One thing that was intersting is that I was generally better in
lessons after a long layoff (like 2 weeks) than in lessons close
together. Not sure why, but there ya go. Everyone's different.

It then took me about a year to do my IFR ticket and I flew over 70
hours that year. That was a great year. I sure would like to do that
again. But cost and time are always prohibitive.

I belong to a flying club which really helps keep current. I can often
fly safety pilot for someone when I can't fly myself (because of $$ or
whatever). Usually there are opportunities to fly with other members
for various reasons and trips. The club also has currency rules, like
no flying with pax without 3 t/o's and ldgs within 90 days, and an
annual club checkout that is basically a BFR. There's always an
instructor to grab and go do x-wind landings with when feeling
rusty. You can stay current and safe with 20-30 hours a year, if you
keep that consideration in mind all the time.


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Old September 20th 07, 10:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Montblack" wrote

And here I thought it was that time, a few years ago, you fell off the
roof/scaffold/ladder...


No, that was definitely not running.

Faaallllliiiinnng...Thud!

Ouch! To put it in an understated kind of way. g
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Jim in NC


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Old September 20th 07, 11:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Shirl
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xyzzy wrote:
I'm one of those guys. A software engineer, was in my
late 30's when I did my PPL, and it took me 80 hours
over 2 years to earn my PPL.


Two years may be a long time, but three years ago, our school (a Cessna
Pilot Center) quoted prices based on *approximately* 60-80 hours of
flight time for PPL. It was suggested and highly encouraged that
students fly at least once/week, preferably twice, to build and maintain
momentum and not spend a lot of extra time/money on review. But in the
end, you're absolutely right that everyone is different.
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Old September 21st 07, 05:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
Matt Barrow wrote:

My apologies to all (especially Dude) for my too quick read of Dudley's
remarks!

My wife heard me grumbling in the den and told me to "knock it off".

As a partial explanation, my meds are making me grumpy, crabby,
lightheaded (more so than normal according to many) and my attention span
is greatly reduced.

Those meds, BTW, are a second run at fixing the tumor that I had removed
a bit over a year ago. Evidently, the docs didn't get everything, so they
have to go in again. If that doesn't get it, I'm really in deep doodoo.

So, I either have to knock of the groups where attention span is
critical, or knock off the meds. Unfortunately, that latter isn't an
option.

Again, my apologies to Dud' and Jim [even the poophead he can be :~), ]
and we'll see you when recovery is complete.

Thanks for some very interesting conversation and information.

Hi Matt;
I'm really sorry you are having so many health problems. I sincerely hope
things improve for you soon.
My wife and I are as well deeply into health issues so I know full well
how it can get sometimes.
Don't sweat the small stuff and by all means keep posting here with your
friends.
Dudley


Thanks, Dudley. It's much appreciated.

The ****er is, everything else about my health (except maybe mental,
according to some) is excellent. I'm 52, and my BP was measured at 122/76.

When I had the tumor removed last year, the doc thought she got everything
(of course, when she walked in for the pre-surgery, I though she was the
nurse -- she looked 18 years old). Now they're playing the cautionary
medication game. We'll see what happens! I'm just hoping that they don't say
"Chemo", if this doesn't work.

Of course, flying is out (right after I got my long awaited "Dream"
airplane), so I'm playing the desk-jockey for the interim. But my #2 son and
son-in-law are taking up the slack rather nicely, so that worry is avoided.

IIRC, your wife had some "health issues", so you certainly have my sympathy,
empathy and all the rest, is such is the case. I guess all we can do it
remain hopeful and give it our best shot.

Best regards,

Matt










 




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