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Errors accessing FAA's Pilotweb
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Mxsmanic wrote: Mike Ash writes: That implies some kind of serious consequence for being wrong. What serious consequences do you face for missing a NOTAM or violating a TFR in your simulated airplane? The serious consequence of accepting a bogus certificate authority is that your computer can be infected with malware after you have done so. If you enjoy identity theft, credit-card fraud, or reinstalling machines to eliminate malware, that is your prerogative, but most people don't enjoy that. Funny. I had always thought that you were highly skilled with computers, and that your amusing bluster regarding aviation was due to the common mistake of thinking that skill in one area implies intelligence in all areas. Turns out you apparently don't know squat about computers either. Guess I shouldn't be surprised. Do you never visit unsecured http sites? Might get malware, you know! And how about usenet? Definitely no SSL on that, and I'm certain there's at least one remotely-exploitable buffer overflow in your newsreader that could be used to do all sorts of horrible things to your computer. -- Mike Ash Radio Free Earth Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon |
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Errors accessing FAA's Pilotweb
On Feb 2, 1:08*pm, Mike Ash wrote:
In article , *Mxsmanic wrote: Jon writes: This assumes that careful thinking is required. In this case, careful thinking is required. That implies some kind of serious consequence for being wrong. What serious consequences do you face for missing a NOTAM or violating a TFR in your simulated airplane? He'll remained on the ground while the rest of you are wheels up -- Mike Ash Radio Free Earth Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon Regards, Jon |
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Errors accessing FAA's Pilotweb
On Feb 2, 3:44*pm, Mike Ash wrote:
[...] Do you never visit unsecured http sites? Might get malware, you know! And how about usenet? Definitely no SSL on that, and I'm certain there's at least one remotely-exploitable buffer overflow in your newsreader There's a buffer overflow, but it's probably somewhere else that could be used to do all sorts of horrible things to your computer. It's consistent with the overall fear of several things. Mike Ash Regards, Jon -- "0verthinking, overanalyzing, separates the body from the mind" - Tool |
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Errors accessing FAA's Pilotweb
Mxsmanic wrote:
Mike Ash writes: That implies some kind of serious consequence for being wrong. What serious consequences do you face for missing a NOTAM or violating a TFR in your simulated airplane? The serious consequence of accepting a bogus certificate authority is that your computer can be infected with malware after you have done so. If you enjoy identity theft, credit-card fraud, or reinstalling machines to eliminate malware, that is your prerogative, but most people don't enjoy that. So, you think that a FAA site is going to steal your identity, put bogus charges on your credit card or install malware? -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Errors accessing FAA's Pilotweb
On Feb 2, 12:27*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Robert M. Gary writes: I guess I just don't understand simulation (I have a hard time just finding time to mow my lawn, much less play on the computer). However, wouldn't the benefit of playing on the flight simulator be that you could ignore real TFRs and fly right over the White House (land on the grass, etc)? Only if you're a gamer. *Normally the enjoyment of simulation requires that many of the same constraints that apply in the real world also be respected in the simulated world. Kind of seems like having a hot blow up doll who's realistic enough to not want to have sex with you. If you're going to be bound by real life restrictions why simulate? -Robert |
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Errors accessing FAA's Pilotweb
A real pilot would not use FAA's pilot web to learn about TFRs and
NOTAMs as part of an official weather briefing (verbal or electronic), which is the only one that counts. Mxsmanic wrote: Viperdoc writes: A real pilot or any other normal rational individual could care less about you and your computer, since you are not a pilot and have no need to know about TFRs. My computer is not the one he needs to access to learn about TFRs and NOTAMs. The one he needs to access is the one with the problem. |
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Errors accessing FAA's Pilotweb
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, "Robert M. Gary" wrote: On Feb 2, 12:27*pm, Mxsmanic wrote: Robert M. Gary writes: I guess I just don't understand simulation (I have a hard time just finding time to mow my lawn, much less play on the computer). However, wouldn't the benefit of playing on the flight simulator be that you could ignore real TFRs and fly right over the White House (land on the grass, etc)? Only if you're a gamer. *Normally the enjoyment of simulation requires that many of the same constraints that apply in the real world also be respected in the simulated world. Kind of seems like having a hot blow up doll who's realistic enough to not want to have sex with you. If you're going to be bound by real life restrictions why simulate? Nah, to a non-pilot playing with a simulator, things like TFRs and weird NOTAMs are cool and interesting challenges. There's no certificate that can be threatened, there's no actual travel to be disrupted, so it's just an interesting change of pace. The key restrictions simulations *don't* have are danger, cost, and training requiremetns, which are the keys to why our friend here sits at a desk instead of in a cockpit. -- Mike Ash Radio Free Earth Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon |
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Errors accessing FAA's Pilotweb
"Mike Ash" wrote in message
... In article , "Robert M. Gary" wrote: On Feb 2, 12:27 pm, Mxsmanic wrote: Robert M. Gary writes: I guess I just don't understand simulation (I have a hard time just finding time to mow my lawn, much less play on the computer). However, wouldn't the benefit of playing on the flight simulator be that you could ignore real TFRs and fly right over the White House (land on the grass, etc)? Only if you're a gamer. Normally the enjoyment of simulation requires that many of the same constraints that apply in the real world also be respected in the simulated world. Kind of seems like having a hot blow up doll who's realistic enough to not want to have sex with you. If you're going to be bound by real life restrictions why simulate? Nah, to a non-pilot playing with a simulator, things like TFRs and weird NOTAMs are cool and interesting challenges. There's no certificate that can be threatened, there's no actual travel to be disrupted, so it's just an interesting change of pace. The key restrictions simulations *don't* have are danger, cost, and training requiremetns, which are the keys to why our friend here sits at a desk instead of in a cockpit. -- Mike Ash Radio Free Earth Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon You forgot about the all-important "pause button" to facilitate potty-stops, and visits to the fridge, without the dsiruption and delay associated with a real stop enroute... Peter ;-) |
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Errors accessing FAA's Pilotweb
On Feb 3, 9:03*am, "Peter Dohm" wrote:
"Mike Ash" wrote in message ... In article , "Robert M. Gary" wrote: On Feb 2, 12:27 pm, Mxsmanic wrote: Robert M. Gary writes: I guess I just don't understand simulation (I have a hard time just finding time to mow my lawn, much less play on the computer). However, wouldn't the benefit of playing on the flight simulator be that you could ignore real TFRs and fly right over the White House (land on the grass, etc)? Only if you're a gamer. Normally the enjoyment of simulation requires that many of the same constraints that apply in the real world also be respected in the simulated world. Kind of seems like having a hot blow up doll who's realistic enough to not want to have sex with you. If you're going to be bound by real life restrictions why simulate? Nah, to a non-pilot playing with a simulator, things like TFRs and weird NOTAMs are cool and interesting challenges. There's no certificate that can be threatened, there's no actual travel to be disrupted, so it's just an interesting change of pace. The key restrictions simulations *don't* have are danger, cost, and training requiremetns, which are the keys to why our friend here sits at a desk instead of in a cockpit. -- Mike Ash Radio Free Earth Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon You forgot about the all-important "pause button" to facilitate potty-stops, and visits to the fridge, without the dsiruption and delay associated with a real stop enroute... Peter * ;-) My first long haul ride in a GA plane (Piper Aztec) was with two IFR pilots. It tooks several days (Hanscom AFB to Lafayette, LA). I finally understood what they meant by "running out of ass before you run out of gas" Regards, Jon |
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Errors accessing FAA's Pilotweb
Taylor writes:
A real pilot would not use FAA's pilot web to learn about TFRs and NOTAMs as part of an official weather briefing (verbal or electronic), which is the only one that counts. Real pilots use it all the time, and that is its main purpose, which is why the site is secured with SSL. Obviously, good pilots will draw information from multiple sources and will not skip briefings, but pilots definitely use the Web as one of those sources, particularly for preliminary planning. |
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