When did the OLC rules change on submission?

Just went to post a flight on OLC and I am too late only two days
after the flight. When did the rules change from three days to
Tuesday at midnight? If you fly on Monday or Tuesday you must submit
by midnight on Tuesday or not get scored, Very unreasonable change to
the system.

TT

On May 6, 4:33*am, Tim Taylor wrote:
Just went to post a flight on OLC and I am too late only two days
after the flight. *When did the rules change from three days to
Tuesday at midnight? *If you fly on Monday or Tuesday you must submit
by midnight on Tuesday or not get scored, *Very unreasonable change to
the system.

TT

It's been like that - not easy for us in North America - for a couple
of years - 18 Oct 2007, I believe. If you contact Doug Haluza, SSA-OLC
Admin, he can add the flight - you can look him up on the SSA member
locator.

I just cross-checked with the ssa webpage under sailplane racing -
olc, and it says: For help with submitting a claim contact us at
. They are very responsive.

My personal pet peeve is the minimum 50 point score for a flight that
counts - I think 25 is more reasonable, and leads more people away
from their home field... then they're competing with themselves to
increase the score. Darn hard to tell someone a 47 point flight just
doesn't count....

Dan

On May 6, 6:25*am, Dan wrote:
On May 6, 4:33*am, Tim Taylor wrote:

Just went to post a flight on OLC and I am too late only two days
after the flight. *When did the rules change from three days to
Tuesday at midnight? *If you fly on Monday or Tuesday you must submit
by midnight on Tuesday or not get scored, *Very unreasonable change to
the system.

TT

It's been like that - not easy for us in North America - for a couple
of years - 18 Oct 2007, I believe. If you contact Doug Haluza, SSA-OLC
Admin, he can add the flight - you can look him up on the SSA member
locator.

I just cross-checked with the ssa webpage under sailplane racing -
olc, and it says: For help with submitting a claim contact us at
. *They are very responsive.

My personal pet peeve is the minimum 50 point score for a flight that
counts - I think 25 is more reasonable, and leads more people away
from their home field... then they're competing with themselves to
increase the score. *Darn hard to tell someone a 47 point flight just
doesn't count....

Dan

OLC (at) ssa (dot) org

I think 50 points is very reasonable if not too low. This translates
to 6 legs of 10km or less. Anything less than that can not be
considered a cross country flight, just a local flight.

Ramy

Dan wrote:
On May 6, 4:33*am, Tim Taylor wrote:
Just went to post a flight on OLC and I am too late only two days
after the flight. *When did the rules change from three days to
Tuesday at midnight? *If you fly on Monday or Tuesday you must submit
by midnight on Tuesday or not get scored, *Very unreasonable change to
the system.

TT

It's been like that - not easy for us in North America - for a couple
of years - 18 Oct 2007, I believe. If you contact Doug Haluza, SSA-OLC
Admin, he can add the flight - you can look him up on the SSA member
locator.

I just cross-checked with the ssa webpage under sailplane racing -
olc, and it says: For help with submitting a claim contact us at
. They are very responsive.

My personal pet peeve is the minimum 50 point score for a flight that
counts - I think 25 is more reasonable, and leads more people away
from their home field... then they're competing with themselves to
increase the score. Darn hard to tell someone a 47 point flight just
doesn't count....

Dan

The OLC gives you 1000 meters of "free altitude" each flight. I believe
the idea behind the 50 point rule is that you should not be able to get
points by doing a sledride from that altitude.

On the other hand, I don't see any harm from giving points for sledrides
-- top pilots like Ramy do not have to worry about competition from
pilots doing sledrides. I don't know why the OLC doesn't give points
for all flights, of whatever length.






On 5/6/2010 3:38 PM, Ramy wrote:
I think 50 points is very reasonable if not too low. This translates
to 6 legs of 10km or less. Anything less than that can not be
considered a cross country flight, just a local flight.

Ramy

Dan wrote:
On May 6, 4:33 am, Tim wrote:
Just went to post a flight on OLC and I am too late only two days
after the flight. When did the rules change from three days to
Tuesday at midnight? If you fly on Monday or Tuesday you must submit
by midnight on Tuesday or not get scored, Very unreasonable change to
the system.

TT

It's been like that - not easy for us in North America - for a couple
of years - 18 Oct 2007, I believe. If you contact Doug Haluza, SSA-OLC
Admin, he can add the flight - you can look him up on the SSA member
locator.

I just cross-checked with the ssa webpage under sailplane racing -
olc, and it says: For help with submitting a claim contact us at
. They are very responsive.

My personal pet peeve is the minimum 50 point score for a flight that
counts - I think 25 is more reasonable, and leads more people away
from their home field... then they're competing with themselves to
increase the score. Darn hard to tell someone a 47 point flight just
doesn't count....

Dan

Good point, but then, one can get ranked pretty high in the "all
flights" category by simply making a sled ride everyday ;-)

Ramy

On May 6, 3:46*pm, Greg Arnold wrote:
The OLC gives you 1000 meters of "free altitude" each flight. *I believe
the idea behind the 50 point rule is that you should not be able to get
points by doing a sledride from that altitude.

On the other hand, I don't see any harm from giving points for sledrides
-- top pilots like Ramy do not have to worry about competition from
pilots doing sledrides. *I don't know why the OLC doesn't give points
for all flights, of whatever length.

On 5/6/2010 3:38 PM, Ramy wrote:



I think 50 points is very reasonable if not too low. This translates
to 6 legs of 10km or less. Anything less than that can not be
considered a cross country flight, just a local flight.

Ramy

Dan wrote:
On May 6, 4:33 am, Tim *wrote:
Just went to post a flight on OLC and I am too late only two days
after the flight. *When did the rules change from three days to
Tuesday at midnight? *If you fly on Monday or Tuesday you must submit
by midnight on Tuesday or not get scored, *Very unreasonable change to
the system.

TT

It's been like that - not easy for us in North America - for a couple
of years - 18 Oct 2007, I believe. If you contact Doug Haluza, SSA-OLC
Admin, he can add the flight - you can look him up on the SSA member
locator.

I just cross-checked with the ssa webpage under sailplane racing -
olc, and it says: For help with submitting a claim contact us at
. *They are very responsive.

My personal pet peeve is the minimum 50 point score for a flight that
counts - I think 25 is more reasonable, and leads more people away
from their home field... then they're competing with themselves to
increase the score. *Darn hard to tell someone a 47 point flight just
doesn't count....

Dan- Hide quoted text -

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On 5/6/2010 1:33 AM, Tim Taylor wrote:
Just went to post a flight on OLC and I am too late only two days
after the flight. When did the rules change from three days to
Tuesday at midnight? If you fly on Monday or Tuesday you must submit
by midnight on Tuesday or not get scored, Very unreasonable change to
the system.

TT


Flights have to be submitted by the Tuesday following the flight. I
believe that means that a Monday flight must be submitted the next day,
while a Tuesday flight can be submitted the following Tuesday.

The Tuesday rule has been controversial in the past. It may make
perfect sense to pilots in Europe who will never land farther than 25 km
from a town. It makes less sense in the western US, where we can have
multiple day retrieves.

Flights have to be submitted by the Tuesday following the flight. *I
believe that means that a Monday flight must be submitted the next day,
while a Tuesday flight can be submitted the following Tuesday.

Hi Greg,
You are correct! I had always thought it was the more restrictive
rule until today. I flew on Tuesday, May 4, and hadn't even bother
posting because it was a local flight. Well, I just posted(on
Thursday), and it showed up on OLC. I guess that leaves time for those
week long retrieves!
Hope all is well with you!

Happy soaring, Dean

so if you are going to do a REALLY good flight, do it on a Tuesday

one local commented after my gold flight on Sunday: "Great flight but
you should've done it on a Saturday!" Monday morning at work (and
school for my crew) was not very fun.

On May 6, 4:08*pm, Greg Arnold wrote:
On 5/6/2010 1:33 AM, Tim Taylor wrote:

Just went to post a flight on OLC and I am too late only two days
after the flight. *When did the rules change from three days to
Tuesday at midnight? *If you fly on Monday or Tuesday you must submit
by midnight on Tuesday or not get scored, *Very unreasonable change to
the system.

TT

Flights have to be submitted by the Tuesday following the flight. *I
believe that means that a Monday flight must be submitted the next day,
while a Tuesday flight can be submitted the following Tuesday.

The Tuesday rule has been controversial in the past. *It may make
perfect sense to pilots in Europe who will never land farther than 25 km
from a town. *It makes less sense in the western US, where we can have
multiple day retrieves.

So that's why mine didn't count. Flew on a Monday, had problems
uploading, was busy Tuesday, when I got a chance to upload again nul
points instead of 300+. Bah Humbug. It would be better to have 7
days after each flight.