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Got to fly the hottest airplane in the
world - the Dash 19 104A. Also got to spend 22 years in fighter cockpits (F86/F102/F104/F4). Was still flying the F4 and filling a combat slot right up to two months before I hung it up for good. Not too shabby for a 49 year old. Bitch, bitch, bitch. Sounds like an unregrettable life, Walt. Do you have a website or story collection anywhere? I think whatever story you wanted to commit to 'paper' would be worth reading. Lex has read your letter a couple of times since you sent it but we're keeping that Zipper sticker for something special - he says he'll know it when he sees it. v/r Gordon |
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roncachamp- Naval aviation exists for those that can't qualify for the Air
Force. BRBR righto-we all had assigned seats everytime the USAF exchange officer came aboard the boat...better show than either the USMC pilot or the movie... P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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One of the things I continue to enjoy about RAMN is the spirited
participation of Ed and other current and former Blue-Suiters - despite their presence being overly-obvious "low-hanging fruit" for jibes and good-natured leg-pulling. To me this shows that the best among us ARE the best in spite of dressing like either bus drivers or Good Humor vendors. -- Mike Kanze "And why is radicalism so strong in California? Because the State is run by a dreadful combination of crooked politicians and grasping Babbitts." - H. L. Mencken (1924) "Ed Rasimus" wrote in message ... On 04 Mar 2004 14:14:04 GMT, (Pechs1) wrote: P.S. Air Force pilots wear scarves and iron their flight suits. BRBR They also flare to land and squat to pee... P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer Is there no one in this forum who will speak the truth? We flare to land because we can. We don't squat to pee. We don't iron our flight suits, they look that way because we put a clean one on every day and it hasn't been through the ship's laundry. We have a drink before meals and afterward as well. There's an O'Club at our operating location. We can leave the water running when we shower. They wash our airplanes so they don't look like something out of "Junkyard Wars" or "Mad Max". And, it is a helluva lot warmer in Colorado Springs in the winter than either West Point or Annapolis. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN #1-58834-103-8 |
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Ed,
Now, OTOH, when I was there, we tapped an KA-6 after T/O. The nose-gunner driving me around bragged later about his tanking ability--we took 1500 pounds to ease the cycle. Being a fighter guy, he would have taken more had Tanker Control let him. Having been - at times - the right-seat "gas passer" in the mighty K, I heard ALL airborne whines and snivels of fighter guys begging for more. I guess it's like being a whore or a traffic cop - in that position you hear 'em all. My stock answer (given when I was too bored or lazy to think of anything else) was the equivalent of "tell it to the judge" (Tanker Control). Everything else (i.e. mission) seemed to be secondary to coming aboard. I can't speak for the FITRON Ready Rooms, but in Attack there was always CEP, Bulls-Eye patches and Top Stick / Top Scope competitions. BTW, if you can't get aboard, then you can't prosecute the mission. If you can get aboard, you probably have the skills to do most anything. BTW, I did get to taste a bit of warm scotch in a paper cup while hunched in a cramped C-position on the edge of a lower bunk with six guys in a 8x5 foot stateroom without a window, beneath a cat and next to an ammo hoist. Nice life! Hey, they could've sent you to one of the JO bunkrooms. Imagine a fraternity house shoehorned into a phone booth and you'll get the idea. (I understand that - in today's female JO bunkrooms - it's even more cramped. "More stuff" is the reason I've heard. Women came aboard ship long after my time.) -- Mike Kanze "And why is radicalism so strong in California? Because the State is run by a dreadful combination of crooked politicians and grasping Babbitts." - H. L. Mencken (1924) "Ed Rasimus" wrote in message ... [rest snipped] |
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I can't speak for the FITRON Ready Rooms, but in Attack there was always
CEP, Bulls-Eye patches and Top Stick / Top Scope competitions. BTW, if you can't get aboard, then you can't prosecute the mission. If you can get aboard, you probably have the skills to do most anything. It's been my experience that with rare exceptions, most aviators have strong suites and weaknesses. I've known many guys who were consistent top ten yet a grape in ACM or a dullard in air-to-mud. Vice versa as well. Your observation that the on and off the boat skill is necessary to mission completion is spot on, but I've always thought it overemphasized. If an aviator has achieved basic competence in carrier landings, there's no real effort made to improve his remaining skills. (Put a string of no-grades on the board and you'll get personal attention from CO, LSO, CAG LSO ... not unreasonable ... but be a perennial loser elsewhere and you'll get the rep, but rarely remedial training). R / John |
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Had an exchange tour with the USAF..IP in 61st TFS and 13th TFTS..late 70's.
Flew F-4D after the US Gov't gave all the MacDill -E models to Egypt. I was always impressed by the equipment, the JOs and my COs. Papy Fero and Mike Ryan(yep, the same). I became a great bomber, even in the trunk with radar nuke deliverys but the USAF F-4 boys couldn't fight the A/C to 'save their life'. I had my way with all of them including the Fighter Weapos School guys. BUT my biggest gripe was when the Wing Commander didn't like it when I didn't have my scarf on, or when I rolled up my sleeves too high or when I had my brown boots on. There were more O-6s in the wing administration than on an entire battle group. I loved the tour, great guys and great flying but you can have the BS way to administer the aviators. P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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WaltBJ a exposé le 05/03/2004 :
Not too shabby for a 49 year old. Go Air Force! I even almost forgave DCS/P for that 4 years at a desk in USAFE after SEA. Sorry Walt, can you explain the acronym DCS/P, I am not familiarized with US military terms :-) Thanks. -- Sergio |
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