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  #21  
Old January 20th 08, 02:49 PM posted to alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Eeyore writes:

Why just Boeing ?


Airbus made the FBW mistake almost from the beginning, years before Boeing.

They're not.


So, how many times have all mechanical throttle linkages broken on an
airliner?
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Old January 20th 08, 03:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_22_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Eeyore writes:

Why just Boeing ?


Airbus made the FBW mistake almost from the beginning, years before
Boeing.

They're not.


So, how many times have all mechanical throttle linkages broken on an
airliner?



Several, moron.

In fact, I've had a double throttle jam!





Bertie

  #23  
Old January 20th 08, 04:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_22_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Eeyore writes:

Why just Boeing ?


Airbus made the FBW mistake almost from the beginning, years before
Boeing.

They're not.


So, how many times have all mechanical throttle linkages broken on an
airliner?


Plenty, fjukkwit. I've had several double throttle jams myself, moron.


Bertie
  #24  
Old January 20th 08, 04:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Chris Rowland
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Eeyore writes:

Why just Boeing ?


Airbus made the FBW mistake almost from the beginning, years before
Boeing.

They're not.


So, how many times have all mechanical throttle linkages broken on an
airliner?


Plenty, fjukkwit. I've had several double throttle jams myself, moron.


Of course you have, flying your rubber band airplanes!

Say fjukkwit again, we can't get enough of your nonsense! Thank goodness
you are around to bless us.

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Old January 20th 08, 04:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_22_]
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Chris Rowland wrote in news:4793793D.C8EE11E6
@spamners.quit:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Eeyore writes:

Why just Boeing ?

Airbus made the FBW mistake almost from the beginning, years before
Boeing.

They're not.

So, how many times have all mechanical throttle linkages broken on

an
airliner?


Plenty, fjukkwit. I've had several double throttle jams myself,

moron.

Of course you have, flying your rubber band airplanes!

Say fjukkwit again, we can't get enough of your nonsense! Thank

goodness
you are around to bless us.





My pleasure

Really.



Bertie
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Old January 20th 08, 08:53 PM posted to alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Eeyore writes:

Why just Boeing ?


Airbus made the FBW mistake almost from the beginning, years before
Boeing.

They're not.


So, how many times have all mechanical throttle linkages broken on an
airliner?


Mechanical throttle linkages went out with the DC3, all modern
aircraft since the 1950's have had electrical or electro-mechanical control
systems. Early engines so equipped include the Bristol Siddeley
Viper designed in 1953

While not used on commercial aircraft they have indeed caused failures
on GA aircraft, an airworthiness directive for the Pt-220C reads

Quote
Instances have been reported of throttle quadrants pulling off the fuselage
skin to which they were glued and nailed during manufacture. Both front and
rear cockpit throttle quadrants must therefore be inspected for looseness
immediately and if found loose must be repaired prior to the next flight
/Quote


Think about the problem of running a mechanical control system
to the engine hanging on a Boeing 707 pylon. In fact FADEC's
have contributed to the far greater reliability of modern engines.

Keith


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Old January 20th 08, 09:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_22_]
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in
:


"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Eeyore writes:

Why just Boeing ?


Airbus made the FBW mistake almost from the beginning, years before
Boeing.

They're not.


So, how many times have all mechanical throttle linkages broken on an
airliner?


Mechanical throttle linkages went out with the DC3, all modern
aircraft since the 1950's have had electrical or electro-mechanical
control systems. Early engines so equipped include the Bristol
Siddeley Viper designed in 1953


The brits were the ony ones who did that.

While not used on commercial aircraft they have indeed caused failures
on GA aircraft, an airworthiness directive for the Pt-220C reads

Quote
Instances have been reported of throttle quadrants pulling off the
fuselage skin to which they were glued and nailed during manufacture.
Both front and rear cockpit throttle quadrants must therefore be
inspected for looseness immediately and if found loose must be
repaired prior to the next flight /Quote


Think about the problem of running a mechanical control system
to the engine hanging on a Boeing 707 pylon.



Actually, that is exaclty what they did have. Every boeing before this
one had a mechanical linkage up to the FCU. I'm absolutely sure about
this BTW.

Bertie


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Old January 20th 08, 09:09 PM posted to alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Keith Willshaw writes:

Mechanical throttle linkages went out with the DC3, all modern
aircraft since the 1950's have had electrical or electro-mechanical control
systems.


How often have those completely failed?

While not used on commercial aircraft they have indeed caused failures
on GA aircraft ...


GA aircraft are a different world.
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Old January 20th 08, 09:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_22_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Keith Willshaw writes:

Mechanical throttle linkages went out with the DC3, all modern
aircraft since the 1950's have had electrical or electro-mechanical
control systems.


How often have those completely failed?

While not used on commercial aircraft they have indeed caused
failures on GA aircraft ...


GA aircraft are a different world.



No they aren't.


Bertie
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Old January 21st 08, 12:34 AM posted to alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Keith Willshaw writes:

Mechanical throttle linkages went out with the DC3, all modern
aircraft since the 1950's have had electrical or electro-mechanical control
systems.


How often have those completely failed?


Have you ever driven a car whose accelerator, clutch or handbrake stopped working
?

Graham

 




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