Question about Rear Admiral, lower half

"Red" wrote in message
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Many, many years ago I heard an explanation for this. As best I recall
they
said Lt Gen was a rank in the regular army. The mounted (calvary) army
decided to be different and call their general of the same pay grade a
MajGen. Of course it wasn't long before they were trying to convince
everyone that MajGen out ranked Lt.Gen. The regular army didn't buy it.

Your fables may vary.


It's simpler than that. Originally (17th century) it was "Captain General,"
"Lieutenant General," and "Sergeant Major General." That's "general" as in
above all others, like Attorney General or Postmaster General. Over the
years the "captain" and "sergeant" were dropped, and "general" went from an
adjective to a noun.

--Justin

"Pechs1" wrote in message
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Do Commanders of small-ish groups of ships, smaller than a CVBG, are they
still
refered to as 'Commodore'??

It's all about the flags. Any command that entitles an officer to the broad
command pennant (ComDesRon, ComSubRon, ComPhibRon, ComPatWing, etc.) carries
with it the title of commodore. AFAIK these are always O-6 commands.

Even if they are O-7s?

Nope, then they are flag officers, no command pennant.

--Justin

"Ogden Johnson III" wrote in message
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If a Rear
Admiral [O-7] retired when Rear Admirals of the lower half still wore
two stars, would they wear two stars when in uniform now, or do
regulations prescribe [actually, I assume they do - but remember the
old saw] they wear the current uniform of a Rear Admiral [Lower Half],
and thus one star?

Retired personnel have the option to wear the uniform presently authorized,
or according to the regulations in force at the time they separated. So
they could wear their two stars.

--Justin

"Jake Donovan" wrote in message
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JD

PS - But for the life of me, I could never understand the AF / Army Lt Gen
out ranking a Major Gen. LOL ( and before someone tries to explain it to
me, I KNOW that a Lt Gen is 3 stars and a Major Gen is 2 stars. As it is
the
same in the Marines)


You have to go back to the meaning of lieutenant, vice (regent if I remember
correctly) or in lieu of. in other words one who act for a superior, thus
lieutenant colonel or lieutenant general. That said, I do not remember why
lieutenant starts the officer ranks.

Tex Houston

Steven- O-8 would be upper half, two stars. O-7 is lower half, one star.
BRBR

Yep, what I meant, can ya tell I retired as a O-5?-never saw O-6 or 7...
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

Tex- You have to go back to the meaning of lieutenant, vice (regent if I
remember
correctly) or in lieu of. in other words one who act for a superior, thus
lieutenant colonel or lieutenant general. That said, I do not remember why
lieutenant starts the officer ranks. BRBR

It doesn't, it starts with "Ensign"...

;i-)
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

"Pechs1" wrote in message
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Tex- You have to go back to the meaning of lieutenant, vice (regent if I
remember
correctly) or in lieu of. in other words one who act for a superior, thus
lieutenant colonel or lieutenant general. That said, I do not remember
why
lieutenant starts the officer ranks. BRBR

It doesn't, it starts with "Ensign"...

;i-)
P. C. Chisholm

Even call a Marine 'Ensign'...Don't! (vbg)

Tex

I had the honor (?) of a burgee and everybody called me Commodore except the
Disbursing folks...


"Justin Broderick" wrote in message
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"Pechs1" wrote in message
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Do Commanders of small-ish groups of ships, smaller than a CVBG, are
they
still
refered to as 'Commodore'??

It's all about the flags. Any command that entitles an officer to the
broad
command pennant (ComDesRon, ComSubRon, ComPhibRon, ComPatWing, etc.)
carries
with it the title of commodore. AFAIK these are always O-6 commands.

Even if they are O-7s?

Nope, then they are flag officers, no command pennant.

--Justin

I had the honor (?) of a burgee and everybody called me Commodore except
the Disbursing folks...

Hell, I didn't care WHAT the porkchops called me, so long as I was paid
promptly and correctly. g
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"John" wrote in message
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Tex- Even call a Marine 'Ensign'...Don't! BRBR

Nope, we called our Marines 'Ugly Little Sisters'..

Got tired of being called 'captain' while on USAF exchange also..even when I
had a Khaiki hat on..
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer