Wildcat on the Ronald Reagan

(Walt BJ) wrote:

Considering that a Wildcat had a tail hook, why not? As for the
optical system, it'd take about a 5 minute chalk talk to show a WW2
pilot how it worked and what to do. We USAF drivers didn't get any
briefing at all and we used to use the field optical landing system at
Navy Key West, absolute proof that anyone with half a brain can do it,
right? (G)

Finally. An admission by a USAF pilot that they are a half-brained
lot. Good for you, Walt.

OJ III

Walt- We USAF drivers didn't get any
briefing at all and we used to use the field optical landing system at
Navy Key West, absolute proof that anyone with half a brain can do it,
right? (G) BRBR

USAF-flare to land, squat to pee...

;-l)
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

USAF-flare to land, squat to pee...

;-l)
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

You know, Old Phart, I once considered going into the USN V12 program,
but then the thought of 6 months on a boat made me go USAF. I really
don't care for guys all that much. Women are softer and smell better,
etc. ;)
Walt BJ

waltBJ- You know, Old Phart, I once considered going into the USN V12
program,
but then the thought of 6 months on a boat made me go USAF. I really
don't care for guys all that much. Women are softer and smell better,
BRBR

Nawwww-sailors(and aviators) belong on ships, ships belong at sea...

After 2 years flying exchange with the USAF(great guys but ohhh that chain of
command!!), I know I was in the right place in the USN..

Besides, some of the guys that flew in the USAF were kinda 'girly'...

Just kiddin'-I enjoyed my USAF squadronmates, the aircraft(F-4D) condition and
particularly standing tall before the Wing Commander for wearing brown boots,
coming into the break(overhead) too fast and too close, for having my sleeves
rolled up, that kinda thing.
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

No sweat! The F4F would probably have to taxi up to the number one wire for
a trapped landing.

It probably could also make a deck-run-takeoff off the angle deck with room
to spare.

WDA
VF-24, VA-192, 1956 - 1959

end

"Charles Talleyrand" wrote in message
...
Suppose someone tried to land an F4F Wildcat on a modern American
aircraft carrier. We'll give the carrier a few hours to prepare, and lets
assume
the carrier is at sea and moving.

Can a WWII fighter land on a modern carrier? Can it get back in the air?

-Much Thanks
-CMTalleyrand

We were always told that the performance of a T28C and F4F were pretty close
(the Wildcat at a 1200 hp P & W, the Trojan a 1475 hp Wright Cyclone and
their weights were close). At VT-5 we CQed by trapping and launched by
deck run. IIRC, in the late 60s when LEXINGTON was not available, a CVA
was sometimes (but rarely) a stand-in. After the last 27C was retired, a
CVA would be all that was available.

Which kind of a long way of saying that an F4F would like have to trap, but
would likely have to deck run for take off (as I doubt any modern CVA has
the proper launch gear).

Bill Kambic

P.S. On very rare occasions we deck ran S2s and C1s on INTREPID. It could
only be done if the aircraft were very light.

If, by any act, error, or omission, I have, intentionally or
unintentionally, displayed any breedist, disciplinist, sexist, racist,
culturalist, nationalist, regionalist, localist, ageist, lookist, ableist,
sizeist, speciesist, intellectualist, socioeconomicist, ethnocentrist,
phallocentrist, heteropatriarchalist, or other violation of the rules of
political correctness, known or unknown, I am not sorry and I encourage you
to get over it.

At Pensacola in 1955 we qualed in the SNJ on the Monterey, which I believe
was a CVE, an "escort" carrier. We trapped, then did a SHORT deck run right
from the spot of the trap rollout.

The Monterey was definitely smaller than the Bon Homme Richard on that first
WestPac deployment.

We told the Forrestal class weenies that their ships were so big you could
see the curvature of the earth in their flight deck.

Those were great days!

WDA

end

"Bill Kambic" wrote in message
...
We were always told that the performance of a T28C and F4F were pretty
close
(the Wildcat at a 1200 hp P & W, the Trojan a 1475 hp Wright Cyclone and
their weights were close). At VT-5 we CQed by trapping and launched by
deck run. IIRC, in the late 60s when LEXINGTON was not available, a CVA
was sometimes (but rarely) a stand-in. After the last 27C was retired, a
CVA would be all that was available.

Which kind of a long way of saying that an F4F would like have to trap,
but
would likely have to deck run for take off (as I doubt any modern CVA has
the proper launch gear).

Bill Kambic

P.S. On very rare occasions we deck ran S2s and C1s on INTREPID. It
could
only be done if the aircraft were very light.

If, by any act, error, or omission, I have, intentionally or
unintentionally, displayed any breedist, disciplinist, sexist, racist,
culturalist, nationalist, regionalist, localist, ageist, lookist, ableist,
sizeist, speciesist, intellectualist, socioeconomicist, ethnocentrist,
phallocentrist, heteropatriarchalist, or other violation of the rules of
political correctness, known or unknown, I am not sorry and I encourage
you
to get over it.

SNIP:
Bill Kambic

P.S. On very rare occasions we deck ran S2s and C1s on INTREPID. It
could
only be done if the aircraft were very light.

If, by any act, error, or omission, I have, intentionally or
unintentionally, displayed any breedist, disciplinist, sexist, racist,
culturalist, nationalist, regionalist, localist, ageist, lookist, ableist,
sizeist, speciesist, intellectualist, socioeconomicist, ethnocentrist,
phallocentrist, heteropatriarchalist, or other violation of the rules of
political correctness, known or unknown, I am not sorry and I encourage
you to get over it.

That is a cool disclaimer. I like it. More sophisticated than the one
that ends "....and the horse you rode into town on, too!"

As for WW2 fighters landing on carriers, the RAF did just that
evacuating Norway in early WW2 - they landed 8 Hurricanes on Glorious
- without hooks. And Glorious was a small carrier, converted from a
WW1 'battle cruiser'. Unfortunately the ship was sunk on the way home
and only about two dozen people survived.
Walt BJ

"Walt BJ" wrote in message

That is a cool disclaimer. I like it. More sophisticated than the one
that ends "....and the horse you rode into town on, too!"

Thank you, Sir!g

It is not completely original work, but enough that I think I can use it in
good conscience. And if someone disagrees, then they can just go and read
and heed!g

As for WW2 fighters landing on carriers, the RAF did just that
evacuating Norway in early WW2 - they landed 8 Hurricanes on Glorious
- without hooks. And Glorious was a small carrier, converted from a
WW1 'battle cruiser'. Unfortunately the ship was sunk on the way home
and only about two dozen people survived.

I suspect that with enough wind over the deck you can do this. Thing is,
with tail dragger, you had best be very careful with the brakes, or you will
embarass yourself mightily!

Bill Kambic

If, by any act, error, or omission, I have, intentionally or
unintentionally, displayed any breedist, disciplinist, sexist, racist,
culturalist, nationalist, regionalist, localist, ageist, lookist, ableist,
sizeist, speciesist, intellectualist, socioeconomicist, ethnocentrist,
phallocentrist, heteropatriarchalist, or other violation of the rules of
political correctness, known or unknown, I am not sorry and I encourage you
to get over it.