A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Piloting
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Methods for altitude changes



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old April 7th 07, 02:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9,169
Default Methods for altitude changes

Suppose you're in your small aircraft and you want to climb from 4000 to 6000,
or descend from 6000 to 4000. What method do you use? I can think of
several, but I don't know which is best/recommended.

For example, to climb from 4000 to 6000, I can just ease the yoke back and
climb. When I get to 6000, I can adjust power and retrim. Another way is to
just add some nose-up trim, then retrim and adjust power when I'm at 6000.
Still another way is to increase power, and wait until I drift up to 6000,
then adjust power and retrim. Various other combinations are possible, such
as adjusting power and/or pitch and/or trim simultaneously, and so on.

Which method do you normally use? Is there a recommended method?

I make a distinction here between initial climbs/descents and extended
climbs/descents and small altitude changes. I presume it's not necessary to
worry too much about constant adjustment of mixture or things like that in a
change of only 2000 feet or so--it can always be adjusted after the target
altitude is reached. Similarly, although power must ultimately be adjusted
for any new altitude, it doesn't seem that it's really necessary during the
altitude change; a slight change in airspeed isn't that big a deal. This
would seem to leave a lot of room for personal preferences, which is why I ask
which methods are the most popular, and why.

--
Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
  #2  
Old April 7th 07, 04:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 896
Default Methods for altitude changes

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Suppose you're in your small aircraft and you want to climb from 4000
to 6000, or descend from 6000 to 4000. What method do you use?


Good grief, and you're presuming to tell anyone here anythign?

Bweawhahwhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahwhahhw!


Berti e
  #3  
Old April 7th 07, 07:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Maxwell
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,116
Default Methods for altitude changes


"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Suppose you're in your small aircraft and you want to climb from 4000 to
6000,
or descend from 6000 to 4000. What method do you use? I can think of
several, but I don't know which is best/recommended.

For example, to climb from 4000 to 6000, I can just ease the yoke back and
climb. When I get to 6000, I can adjust power and retrim. Another way is
to
just add some nose-up trim, then retrim and adjust power when I'm at 6000.
Still another way is to increase power, and wait until I drift up to 6000,
then adjust power and retrim. Various other combinations are possible,
such
as adjusting power and/or pitch and/or trim simultaneously, and so on.

Which method do you normally use? Is there a recommended method?

I make a distinction here between initial climbs/descents and extended
climbs/descents and small altitude changes. I presume it's not necessary
to
worry too much about constant adjustment of mixture or things like that in
a
change of only 2000 feet or so--it can always be adjusted after the target
altitude is reached. Similarly, although power must ultimately be
adjusted
for any new altitude, it doesn't seem that it's really necessary during
the
altitude change; a slight change in airspeed isn't that big a deal. This
would seem to leave a lot of room for personal preferences, which is why I
ask
which methods are the most popular, and why.


Relax, not matter which procedure you use, your desk will always remain
level, and at the same altitude.


  #4  
Old April 7th 07, 07:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
[email protected]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,892
Default Methods for altitude changes

In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
Suppose you're in your small aircraft and you want to climb from 4000 to 6000,
or descend from 6000 to 4000. What method do you use? I can think of
several, but I don't know which is best/recommended.


For example, to climb from 4000 to 6000, I can just ease the yoke back and
climb. When I get to 6000, I can adjust power and retrim. Another way is to
just add some nose-up trim, then retrim and adjust power when I'm at 6000.
Still another way is to increase power, and wait until I drift up to 6000,
then adjust power and retrim. Various other combinations are possible, such
as adjusting power and/or pitch and/or trim simultaneously, and so on.


Which method do you normally use? Is there a recommended method?


I make a distinction here between initial climbs/descents and extended
climbs/descents and small altitude changes. I presume it's not necessary to
worry too much about constant adjustment of mixture or things like that in a
change of only 2000 feet or so--it can always be adjusted after the target
altitude is reached. Similarly, although power must ultimately be adjusted
for any new altitude, it doesn't seem that it's really necessary during the
altitude change; a slight change in airspeed isn't that big a deal. This
would seem to leave a lot of room for personal preferences, which is why I ask
which methods are the most popular, and why.


It doesn't matter in Flight Simulator.

Why bother telling you what to do in a real airplane as you will just
argue about it and discard the information since you will never be in
a real airplane.

--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.
  #5  
Old April 7th 07, 08:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
flypaper
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9
Default Methods for altitude changes

Mxsmanic wrote:
Suppose you're in your small aircraft and you want to climb from 4000
to 6000


hit Y, then Q couple times, then Y again when alt reached... hth


  #6  
Old April 7th 07, 08:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Maxwell
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,116
Default Methods for altitude changes


"flypaper" wrote in message
...
Mxsmanic wrote:
Suppose you're in your small aircraft and you want to climb from 4000
to 6000


hit Y, then Q couple times, then Y again when alt reached... hth


But smoothly, easy on the controls. Let the sim do the work.


  #7  
Old April 7th 07, 09:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
TheSmokingGnu
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 166
Default Methods for altitude changes

Mxsmanic wrote:
Suppose you're *simulating your small aircraft and you want to *simulate a climb from 4000 to 6000,
or descent from 6000 to 4000. What method do you *simulate? I can think of
several, but I don't know which is best/recommended to *simulate.


Funny that.


For example, to *simulate a climb from 4000 to 6000, I can just *simulate easing the yoke back and
climbing. When I get to a *simulated 6000, I can *simulate adjusting power and trim. Another way is to
just add some *simulated nose-up trim, then re-trim and *simulate adjusting power when I'm at a *simulated 6000.
Still another way is to *simulate an increase in power, and wait until I drift up to a *simulated 6000,
then *simulate adjusting power and trim. Various other combinations are possible, such
as *simulating adjusting power and/or pitch and/or trim simultaneously, and so on.


Only one of these is correct, and none of the situations you explicitly
described are correct.


Which method do you normally use when *simulating? Is there a recommended method?


Yes.


I make a distinction here between initial *simulated climbs/descents and *simulated extended
climbs/descents and small altitude changes. I presume it's not necessary to
worry too much about *simulated constant adjustment of mixture or things like that in a *simulated
change of only 2000 *simulated feet or so--it can always be *simulated after the *simulated target
altitude is reached.


You presume incorrectly.

Similarly, although *simulated power must ultimately be adjusted
for any new altitude, it doesn't seem that it's really necessary during the
altitude change; a slight change in airspeed isn't that big a deal.


It's a big deal. It needs adjustment.

I have corrected some of the errors in enunciation, prose and grammar
where necessary. (denoted by *)

TheSmokingGnu
  #8  
Old April 7th 07, 09:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9,169
Default Methods for altitude changes

TheSmokingGnu writes:

Only one of these is correct, and none of the situations you explicitly
described are correct.


Which one is correct, and why?

--
Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
  #9  
Old April 7th 07, 09:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Maxwell
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,116
Default Methods for altitude changes


"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
TheSmokingGnu writes:

Only one of these is correct, and none of the situations you explicitly
described are correct.


Which one is correct, and why?


All of the above, because it's free country and just a simulated event.


  #10  
Old April 7th 07, 09:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
d.g.s.
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 60
Default Methods for altitude changes

On 4/7/2007 1:20 PM Maxwell jumped down, turned around, and wrote:

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
TheSmokingGnu writes:

Only one of these is correct, and none of the situations you explicitly
described are correct.

Which one is correct, and why?


All of the above, because it's free country and just a simulated event.


Correct, and not only that, remember: you're just a name on a screen.
Anthony sez so!
--
dgs
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Methods of launch Jim Culp Soaring 0 November 20th 06 07:39 AM
Methods of Launch Nigel Baker Soaring 3 November 17th 06 04:35 PM
methods of lauch Robert Gaines Soaring 0 November 16th 06 01:17 AM
Vector altitude for ILS below GS intercept altitude? M Instrument Flight Rules 23 May 20th 06 07:41 PM
Pressure Altitude or Density Altitude john smith Piloting 3 July 22nd 04 10:48 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.