NGA US navigational data at risk?

Erik writes:

I'm average Joe and it's within my grasp.

I just have to turn tricks to get fuel money, but what the hell. Flying
is great.

Joe Buck, Midnight Pilot.

The average Joe, however, probably wouldn't be willing to make the sacrifices
that many non-wealthy pilots do to fly. Nor should he be required to.

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Erik writes:

I'm average Joe and it's within my grasp.

I just have to turn tricks to get fuel money, but what the hell. Flying
is great.

Joe Buck, Midnight Pilot.

The average Joe, however, probably wouldn't be willing to make the
sacrifices
that many non-wealthy pilots do to fly. Nor should he be required to.


Sure the average Joe would, and they do every day.

It seems to be the retarded Joe we're having a problem convincing.

Mxsmanic wrote:

Erik writes:


I'm average Joe and it's within my grasp.

I just have to turn tricks to get fuel money, but what the hell. Flying
is great.


Joe Buck, Midnight Pilot.

The average Joe, however, probably wouldn't be willing to make the sacrifices
that many non-wealthy pilots do to fly. Nor should he be required to.


I make those all the time. I don't consider them sacrifices, though.
If you gave up a day of watching tv for a day of fishing, is that a
sacrifice? Giving up cold brussel sprouts so that you can have
lasagne for dinner?

It's not a sacrifice to spend my money on a rental C150 for a couple
hours. It's the furthest from a sacrifice I can think of.

"Erik" wrote in message
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Erik writes:


I'm average Joe and it's within my grasp.

I just have to turn tricks to get fuel money, but what the hell. Flying
is great.


Joe Buck, Midnight Pilot.

The average Joe, however, probably wouldn't be willing to make the
sacrifices
that many non-wealthy pilots do to fly. Nor should he be required to.


I make those all the time. I don't consider them sacrifices, though.
If you gave up a day of watching tv for a day of fishing, is that a
sacrifice? Giving up cold brussel sprouts so that you can have
lasagne for dinner?

It's not a sacrifice to spend my money on a rental C150 for a couple
hours. It's the furthest from a sacrifice I can think of.


Yeah, but you have to remember, MX is obviously a socal retard that could
probably never be able to interact with a real person giving instruction.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Erik writes:

I'm average Joe and it's within my grasp.

I just have to turn tricks to get fuel money, but what the hell.
Flying is great.

Joe Buck, Midnight Pilot.

The average Joe, however, probably wouldn't be willing to make the
sacrifices that many non-wealthy pilots do to fly. Nor should he be
required to.

you're an idiot.



Bertie

wrote:
You can get all the same data from the FAA in the National Flight
Database, but it would cost you $150 a year to receive the CD ROM.
Also, the data in in the ARINC 424 standard format, so you you want to
know how to interpret and use this data, that will cost you an
additional $252 to buy the ARINC 424 standard from ARINC.

I just checked NACO's website and found that. I don't recall seeing it
there just a few weeks ago, so I imagine it's new.

I don't really care about paying for the data...after all, considering
the work that goes into maintaining it, $150 a year is still heavily
subsidized IMHO. My concern was being able to get the raw data at all.
I guess I can breathe a bit easier now.

Thanks for the tip.

-Doug

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Doug Vetter, ATP/CFI

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On Apr 18, 12:12 pm, wrote:


You can get all the same data from the FAA in the National Flight
Database, but it would cost you $150 a year to receive the CD ROM.
Also, the data in in the ARINC 424 standard format, so you you want to
know how to interpret and use this data, that will cost you an
additional $252 to buy the ARINC 424 standard from ARINC.


Actually, you can get the data from the NFDC for free now that they've
launched their electronic delivery system. I ran across the info by
accident somewhere, and signed up a week or two ago.

See http://nfdc.faa.gov/fadds/index.jsp for more info.

Also, regarding the data formats, I don't know anything about ARINC
424, but there's data format information distributed with the data.

Hope that helps.

Benj