If ya gotta shop...

....help me earn my Instrument Rating when you do!! I used my programming
career to aid in the creation and upgrade of an online pilot store. If the
store is successful I will have earned for my hours of work the instruction
time needed for my instrument ticket (the site is owned by a San Diego
flight instructor).

I apologize if the post here is inappropriate, I'm just looking for a decent
audience. I have utilized this rec site for a long time to get good
information and was the first place I thought of.
The store is pretty darn good...close to 1200 items all marked well below
mfg sugg price. I am still in the process of uploading all the picture
shots, but the quantity is there.

www.pilotjourneystore.com

Thanks for reading -
Jon Baker, PP-ASEL

wrote in message
news
I apologize if the post here is inappropriate

Apology accepted. Please don't do it again.

You do that amount of work on speculation????? You get paid ONLY IF he
makes money? Nothing wrong with working on trade-out, web site design in
exchange for instruction, or even doing a single page as a free sample to
get the job, but not very professional on either of your parts to do it on
speculation. For both of you, it should be you do the work, you get paid.
Period.


wrote in message
news
...help me earn my Instrument Rating when you do!! I used my programming
career to aid in the creation and upgrade of an online pilot store. If the
store is successful I will have earned for my hours of work the
instruction
time needed for my instrument ticket (the site is owned by a San Diego
flight instructor).

I apologize if the post here is inappropriate, I'm just looking for a
decent
audience. I have utilized this rec site for a long time to get good
information and was the first place I thought of.
The store is pretty darn good...close to 1200 items all marked well below
mfg sugg price. I am still in the process of uploading all the picture
shots, but the quantity is there.

www.pilotjourneystore.com

Thanks for reading -
Jon Baker, PP-ASEL

Tough times breed innovation. Welcome to the new IT world, check your
credentials at the door, they're useless now.


"Steve House" wrote in message ...
You do that amount of work on speculation????? You get paid ONLY IF he
makes money? Nothing wrong with working on trade-out, web site design in
exchange for instruction, or even doing a single page as a free sample to
get the job, but not very professional on either of your parts to do it on
speculation. For both of you, it should be you do the work, you get paid.
Period.


wrote in message
news
...help me earn my Instrument Rating when you do!! I used my programming
career to aid in the creation and upgrade of an online pilot store. If the
store is successful I will have earned for my hours of work the
instruction
time needed for my instrument ticket (the site is owned by a San Diego
flight instructor).

I apologize if the post here is inappropriate, I'm just looking for a
decent
audience. I have utilized this rec site for a long time to get good
information and was the first place I thought of.
The store is pretty darn good...close to 1200 items all marked well below
mfg sugg price. I am still in the process of uploading all the picture
shots, but the quantity is there.

www.pilotjourneystore.com

Thanks for reading -
Jon Baker, PP-ASEL

Not a matter of credentials, just good business practices. If he wants to
take the risk, he's welcome to it but IMHO it's extremely unwise. Known too
many people who have been thoroughly ripped off by doing work on spec.

"idkw" wrote in message
om...
Tough times breed innovation. Welcome to the new IT world, check your
credentials at the door, they're useless now.


"Steve House" wrote in message
...
You do that amount of work on speculation????? You get paid ONLY IF he
makes money? Nothing wrong with working on trade-out, web site design
in
exchange for instruction, or even doing a single page as a free sample
to
get the job, but not very professional on either of your parts to do it
on
speculation. For both of you, it should be you do the work, you get
paid.
Period.


wrote in message
news
...help me earn my Instrument Rating when you do!! I used my
programming
career to aid in the creation and upgrade of an online pilot store. If
the
store is successful I will have earned for my hours of work the
instruction
time needed for my instrument ticket (the site is owned by a San Diego
flight instructor).

I apologize if the post here is inappropriate, I'm just looking for a
decent
audience. I have utilized this rec site for a long time to get good
information and was the first place I thought of.
The store is pretty darn good...close to 1200 items all marked well
below
mfg sugg price. I am still in the process of uploading all the picture
shots, but the quantity is there.

www.pilotjourneystore.com

Thanks for reading -
Jon Baker, PP-ASEL

I'll would receive the trade agreed upon regardless of the financial
outcome. The owner of the store is a local CFI, and I would just feel much
better if her project really took off and did well as a result of the
changes. I guess the way I worded it sounded like my success relied on the
stores increased success.

"Steve House" wrote in message
...
You do that amount of work on speculation????? You get paid ONLY IF he
makes money? Nothing wrong with working on trade-out, web site design in
exchange for instruction, or even doing a single page as a free sample to
get the job, but not very professional on either of your parts to do it on
speculation. For both of you, it should be you do the work, you get paid.
Period.


wrote in message
news
...help me earn my Instrument Rating when you do!! I used my programming
career to aid in the creation and upgrade of an online pilot store. If
the
store is successful I will have earned for my hours of work the
instruction
time needed for my instrument ticket (the site is owned by a San Diego
flight instructor).

I apologize if the post here is inappropriate, I'm just looking for a
decent
audience. I have utilized this rec site for a long time to get good
information and was the first place I thought of.
The store is pretty darn good...close to 1200 items all marked well
below
mfg sugg price. I am still in the process of uploading all the picture
shots, but the quantity is there.

www.pilotjourneystore.com

Thanks for reading -
Jon Baker, PP-ASEL

Ahh, don't feel too bad...

The reality is, any time you give a customer any sort of terms, you run the
risk of being dependent on their success for payment. I had a customer for
whom I did a bunch of work thinking I was actually going to get paid for it
in 30 days, and they were sold in an asset sale by their bank 90 days after
my invoice date... Of course, all legal advice I received was that my invoice
was going to be at the bottom of the list behind the bank's secured credit,
and I was SOL...

I'm with you - spread the word and help make your customer successful!
Protect your investment and collect your training time!


wrote in
:

I'll would receive the trade agreed upon regardless of the financial
outcome. The owner of the store is a local CFI, and I would just feel
much better if her project really took off and did well as a result of
the changes. I guess the way I worded it sounded like my success relied
on the stores increased success.

Been there - got the scars


"Judah" wrote in message
...
Ahh, don't feel too bad...

The reality is, any time you give a customer any sort of terms, you run
the
risk of being dependent on their success for payment. I had a customer for
whom I did a bunch of work thinking I was actually going to get paid for
it
in 30 days, and they were sold in an asset sale by their bank 90 days
after
my invoice date... Of course, all legal advice I received was that my
invoice
was going to be at the bottom of the list behind the bank's secured
credit,
and I was SOL...

I'm with you - spread the word and help make your customer successful!
Protect your investment and collect your training time!


wrote in
:

I'll would receive the trade agreed upon regardless of the financial
outcome. The owner of the store is a local CFI, and I would just feel
much better if her project really took off and did well as a result of
the changes. I guess the way I worded it sounded like my success relied
on the stores increased success.