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Overspeed Recovery question
On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 6:58:58 PM UTC-8, wrote:
If you inadvertently fly into the yellow range and kiss the red range, and you get into the high speed vibration, what is the best way to slow before the wings depart the glider. My sense is to reach for the spoilers and slowly extend to slow. Any opinions on that matter? Thanks all for your input. The senario as stated in my quest has happened to me several times whilst flying Condor - Glider flight Simulation software. I've been deploying spoilers to slow down but that I would ask this group in case it happens in a real glider. Your inputs, as I suspected, are well thought out and are convincing. My thoughts to control highspeed flight (overspeed flight) will be pitch. |
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On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 12:07:31 PM UTC+13, wrote:
On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 6:58:58 PM UTC-8, wrote: If you inadvertently fly into the yellow range and kiss the red range, and you get into the high speed vibration, what is the best way to slow before the wings depart the glider. My sense is to reach for the spoilers and slowly extend to slow. Any opinions on that matter? Thanks all for your input. The senario as stated in my quest has happened to me several times whilst flying Condor - Glider flight Simulation software. I've been deploying spoilers to slow down but that I would ask this group in case it happens in a real glider. Your inputs, as I suspected, are well thought out and are convincing. My thoughts to control highspeed flight (overspeed flight) will be pitch. The flutter in condor is nasty, and happens at speeds well below where any real glider would probably experience flutter. The simulated glider also falls apart very very quickly! Quickly pulling the nose up above the horizon is really the only sensible thing to do there. |
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I was always taught that if you exceed VNE and open the spoilers, they will push the airflow outwards and snap off the wing tips. Never tested the theory but I'm not sure I want to.
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Overspeed Recovery question
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 6:49:09 PM UTC-7, Bruce Hoult wrote:
On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 12:07:31 PM UTC+13, wrote: On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 6:58:58 PM UTC-8, wrote: If you inadvertently fly into the yellow range and kiss the red range, and you get into the high speed vibration, what is the best way to slow before the wings depart the glider. My sense is to reach for the spoilers and slowly extend to slow. Any opinions on that matter? Thanks all for your input. The senario as stated in my quest has happened to me several times whilst flying Condor - Glider flight Simulation software. I've been deploying spoilers to slow down but that I would ask this group in case it happens in a real glider. Your inputs, as I suspected, are well thought out and are convincing. My thoughts to control highspeed flight (overspeed flight) will be pitch. The flutter in condor is nasty, and happens at speeds well below where any real glider would probably experience flutter. The simulated glider also falls apart very very quickly! Have a lot of experience at that? |
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Level the wings and pull. DO NOT OPEN spoilers! The spoilers will be sucked open and now you are creating more bending moments on the wing. Lowering gear usually requires switching hands on the stick, probably not a good idea. Also mindful actions can keep you from exceeding VNE. Other than non-approved aerobatics, and flight into IMC a common reason to get into a VNE exceed would be a spin that has turned into a "death spiral. Go get some training in a 2-32, those will easily go from spin to spiral.
Stay safe |
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Oh, a quick way to tell if a spin has turned into a spiral, when the rudder does not stop the spin.
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Overspeed Recovery question
If you can get to Williams, California on March 7-8...we are having AcroFest.
AcroFest is an introduction to glider aerobatics for the average glider pilot and an opportunity to learn what it feels like to fly upside down and how to get back upright. We can show you how to recover from an overspeed. We can show you how to safely get your upside down glider right side up. We can let you experience a spin in our Fox and how to recover. We fly both Saturday and Sunday. We have presentations and a BBQ on Saturday evening. Go to: www.williamssoaring.com We fly ASK-21s and a Fox. |
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Overspeed Recovery question
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 6:07:31 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Thanks all for your input. The senario as stated in my quest has happened to me several times whilst flying Condor - Glider flight Simulation software. I've been deploying spoilers to slow down but that I would ask this group in case it happens in a real glider. Your inputs, as I suspected, are well thought out and are convincing. My thoughts to control highspeed flight (overspeed flight) will be pitch. Illustrating nicely the perils of self directed training in Condor. You did well to ask for the benefit of real world experience. Evan Ludeman / T8 |
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