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Purchase of glider from Canada
On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 7:43:18 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 9:58:48 PM UTC-7, Mike Reid wrote: I guess it's because I had the proper paperwork with me, but when I towed a glider from the lower 48 to Alaska in May, neither Canadian nor US customs asked for any paperwork for the glider or trailer. YMMV Mike Mike, what paperwork was needed to move a US SH glider and Cobra trailer from the US to a new owner in Canada? Here is what Transport Canada requires: https://www.tc.gc.ca/en/services/avi...-aircraft.html I believe there may a problem importing an aircraft to Canada registered experimental in the US. Best to review this carefully before proceeding: https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviati...-menu-2753.htm Tom |
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On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 11:33:11 PM UTC-4, 2G wrote:
On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 7:43:18 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 9:58:48 PM UTC-7, Mike Reid wrote: I guess it's because I had the proper paperwork with me, but when I towed a glider from the lower 48 to Alaska in May, neither Canadian nor US customs asked for any paperwork for the glider or trailer. YMMV Mike Mike, what paperwork was needed to move a US SH glider and Cobra trailer from the US to a new owner in Canada? Here is what Transport Canada requires: https://www.tc.gc.ca/en/services/avi...-aircraft.html I believe there may a problem importing an aircraft to Canada registered experimental in the US. Best to review this carefully before proceeding: https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviati...-menu-2753.htm Tom For the trailer, here's the website with all the info. https://www.riv.ca/ImporterChecklist.aspx ; also check the "before you import" list on the left side. |
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Purchase of glider from Canada
"I believe there may a problem importing an aircraft to Canada registered experimental in the US. Best to review this carefully before proceeding"
Many factory built gliders in the US are registered Experimental. In my case, I imported an Experimental ASW-20 from the US to Canada where it received a Standard CofA. Later it was sold back to the US where it is now Experimental. The real thing to watch for is inadequate documentation of any repairs. Dave Springford coordinates imports. I was happy to use him even after I had already done an import on my own: http://www.foxonecorp.com/index.php/...port-brokering |
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Purchase of glider from Canada
The advantage of an Experimental glider, is that the owner can do whatever he likes to it. The disadvantage of an Experimental glider, is that the previous owner did whatever he liked to it. |
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Purchase of glider from Canada
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 2:18:49 PM UTC-7, wrote:
The advantage of an Experimental glider, is that the owner can do whatever he likes to it. The disadvantage of an Experimental glider, is that the previous owner did whatever he liked to it. This is one of the most common misunderstandings in US soaring activity. Sentence One is wrong. You must read the FAA-issued Operating Limitations for any individual machine to know what may be done by whom to the machine. Sentence Two is likely correct, multiplied and compounded by each owner since the import. This is the result of the American assertion of "I bought it. It's mine, I can do what I want with it." That view might apply to cars, motorcycles, jet skis and multiple other toys, but it doesn't apply well to aviation machines. If you plan to buy a used sailplane in the US, please get a glider-experienced A & P or IA to assist you with a paperwork read through (at the least) before you buy a pig-in-a-poke. Cindy B |
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Completely agree with Cindy.
Will just add that Canadians need to engage an MD-M (Minister's Delegate - Maintenance) to read over any repair paperwork. MD-Ms are super fussy. It helps a lot if the MD-M knows the repair facility. |
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Purchase of glider from Canada
The advantage of an Experimental glider, is that the owner can do whatever
he likes to it. The disadvantage of an Experimental glider, is that the previous owner did whatever he liked to it. Sheesh. A little oversimplification sure can go a long ways. Maybe I just happened to come across the above sentiments at a weak moment, but as someone who owned/flew 3 Experimentally-registered sailplanes (Concept-70; HP-14; Zuni) over 34 years...and never felt my life was at risk due to anything associated with those ships *not* having approved type certificates...and who did a LOT of owner-maintenance (all entirely legally) over those years - and all logged 'because I thought it was the right thing to do' (regardless of FARs) - part of me wonders if 'the whole EAA thing' (of which I've also been a member since 1979) is some sort of mirage. If it floats your boat to 'go only the ATC-ed route' have at it! But to snark at those folks who *enjoy* 'messing about with things experimental' as lunatic-fringe-sorts, says a whole lot more about the expresser of those opinions than it does about the (generally responsible) practitioners of 'the experimental arts.' Think Stan Hall, Jim Marske, Dick Schreder, George Applebay, Wil Schuemann, Burt Rutan, et (many-other-'nameless') al... Perfection ain't an option when it comes to humans, as casual reading of (say) a year's worth of NTSB Final Reports of general aviation fatal accidents of ONLY ATC-registered airplanes (and gliders) will unequivocally show. Suggesting ATC-registered airplane/glider owners are definitionally 'more responsible' than owners of Experimentally-registered airplanes/gliders is well beyond fatuous. Please...spare us all. There - I feel better now! Bob W. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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