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"BTIZ" wrote Limited cross country.. based on where you are signed off to fly.. and limited distance from "home" airport.. not a fuel thing.. BT More uninformed BS -- Jim in NC |
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Limited cross country.. based on where you are signed off to fly.. and limited distance from "home" airport.. not a fuel thing.. Not so. I could tomorrow downgrade my recreational certificate to a sport pilot license and fly from New Hampshire to California. There is nothing in the sport pilot cert that limits location or distance. Likely you are thinking about the bare-bones recreational certificate, which can be lifted with a two-hour XC flight and an hour's ground school on controlled airspace (and the knowledge, of course). Sport pilot rules are actually more liberal than recreational rules, and the latter have been upgraded to suit the former. That's why I can now land at a towered airport with a specific signoff for it. -- all the best, Dan Ford email (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum: www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum: www.pipercubforum.com the blog: www.danford.net |
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 06:39:29 -0500, Cub Driver
wrote: Sport pilot rules are actually more liberal than recreational rules, and the latter have been upgraded to suit the former. That's why I can now land at a towered airport with a specific signoff for it. that should be WITHOUT a signoff Sorry! Never let your fingers do the talking. -- all the best, Dan Ford email (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum: www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum: www.pipercubforum.com the blog: www.danford.net |
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Ok.. I was thinking there was a distance limit... I just re-read 61.315..
just try getting to California and stay below 10,000MSL, you'll have to go the long way around.. through NM and AZ... and stay out of Class B, C, and D... and don't fly at night.. you do need a sign off for those classes.. 61.325 yes.. the Recreational pilot can go more than 50nm from home with a signoff that he has received additional training.. BT "Cub Driver" wrote in message ... Limited cross country.. based on where you are signed off to fly.. and limited distance from "home" airport.. not a fuel thing.. Not so. I could tomorrow downgrade my recreational certificate to a sport pilot license and fly from New Hampshire to California. There is nothing in the sport pilot cert that limits location or distance. Likely you are thinking about the bare-bones recreational certificate, which can be lifted with a two-hour XC flight and an hour's ground school on controlled airspace (and the knowledge, of course). Sport pilot rules are actually more liberal than recreational rules, and the latter have been upgraded to suit the former. That's why I can now land at a towered airport with a specific signoff for it. -- all the best, Dan Ford email (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum: www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum: www.pipercubforum.com the blog: www.danford.net |
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What LSA qualifed aircraft was that? J-3?
A J-3 does not need the transponder.. but he would need a hand held radio for the tower.. or coordinate the use of light gun signals.. and for a training aircraft.. the tower would get a little tired of that BT "Geoffrey Barnes" wrote in message nk.net... There is another possibility. The flying club that I belong to is also a flight school. They won't instruct for Sport Pilot for insurance reasons. Their position is that people with that level of training are likely to be higher risks, causing more incidents (if not accidents), and thus be a vulnerability to the club. That's a good point. Another one concerns radio comms and transponders. Since my club operates out of a 24-hour Class D airport (AGC) which sits well within the 30-nm mode C veil for Pittsburgh's Class B, all aircraft have to be properly equipped. And the sport pilot wannabes would have to be trained to do radio work. At one point, we had one guy who owned a LSA-qualified taildragger look into setting up a leasback with us in the hope of attracting sport pilot students. But he would have had to add an encoding transponder and probably some basic radio equipement to make it work at our airport, and he decided not to bother. |
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just try getting to California and stay below 10,000MSL, you'll have to go the long way around.. through NM and AZ... and stay out of Class B, C, and D... and don't fly at night.. No, I can fly in B-C-D airspace, thanks to Sport Pilot rules. The other points are correct but of no importance to me. I don't particularly like to drive at night, let alone fly, and the Cub is not very able above 10,000 ft. -- all the best, Dan Ford email (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum: www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum: www.pipercubforum.com the blog: www.danford.net |
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Cub Driver wrote in
: just try getting to California and stay below 10,000MSL, you'll have to go the long way around.. through NM and AZ... and stay out of Class B, C, and D... and don't fly at night.. No, I can fly in B-C-D airspace, thanks to Sport Pilot rules. The other points are correct but of no importance to me. I don't particularly like to drive at night, let alone fly, and the Cub is not very able above 10,000 ft. -- all the best, Dan Ford email (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum: www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum: www.pipercubforum.com the blog: www.danford.net To be more precise, any sport pilot can fly in B,C,D, airspace with a sign- off (and proper equipment, of course) IMHO it's better to get that signoff AFTER getting your license, should make the checkride more focused on the fundementals. ET |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:04:27 GMT, ET wrote:
To be more precise, any sport pilot can fly in B,C,D, airspace with a sign- off (and proper equipment, of course) IMHO it's better to get that signoff AFTER getting your license, should make the checkride more focused on the fundementals. I agree, and that's one reason (there were others) why I went for a recreational pilot certificate. I knew I could patch it up later--or, in the case of controlled airspace, wrongly thought I could. I was delighted when the Sport Pilot thing came along and bailed me out. As posted earlier, I had my B,C,D airspace endorsement within a week of the Sport Pilot rules going into effect last September. (Thanks in large part to my own CFI/friend, the FAA revised rec pilot privileges to match those extended to Sport Pilots.) Of course, if a Sport Pilot (or recreational pilot) wannabe is doing his training at a towered airfield, he will want the airspace endorsement in the course of training. -- all the best, Dan Ford email (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum: www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum: www.pipercubforum.com the blog: www.danford.net |
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