Stability augmentation promises to give you even less control

writes:

So in other words YOU LIVE A LIFE OF LIES.

I haven't said whether I'm lying or telling the truth, so your conclusion is
unwarranted.

writes:

The only downside to such systems that I have seen is when a very old
driver first encounters them, as in very old drivers were taught not to
press the brakes as hard as you can in a panic stop yet the anti-skid
systems "want" you to do exactly that.

There is a downside for newer drivers, too, in that those who have driven
mostly cars with ABS tend to constantly ram the brakes at the last minute,
confident that the ABS will bring them to a safe stop without a skid. The
problems here are that they don't know what to do if the ABS fails, and they
often don't understand that ABS does not reduce minimum stopping distance, so
they can still crash into the car in front of them even with the system
running if they are too careless about braking.

I drive all cars as if they don't have ABS. In other words, I make sure that I
can stop with completely normal braking (not impending-skid braking, although
I learned to do that, too).

Which reminds me (incidentally) that supposedly Southwest has ABS disabled on
all its aircraft, because some of their older models don't have it, and they
want a consistent experience for all pilots on all 737 models. I've heard the
same about autothrottle. It makes me wonder how much automation Southwest
aircraft actually use.

Even then it takes only once to adjust to the new reality (for me that was
more than 15 years ago) and since pilots train for other than normal
circumstances while drivers do not, I see no problem with such a system
in aircraft.

Hmm ... does this rapid adjustment to reality apply generally?

On Aug 6, 2:52*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:
So in other words YOU LIVE A LIFE OF LIES.

I haven't said whether I'm lying or telling the truth, so your conclusion is
unwarranted.

So in other words YOU CONTINUE TO LIVE A LIFE OF LIES since you
apparently are not truthful as indicated above.

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

The only downside to such systems that I have seen is when a very old
driver first encounters them, as in very old drivers were taught not to
press the brakes as hard as you can in a panic stop yet the anti-skid
systems "want" you to do exactly that.

There is a downside for newer drivers, too, in that those who have driven
mostly cars with ABS

It is rather difficult to drive anything else these days unless you are
a collector of "classic" cars.

Even then it takes only once to adjust to the new reality (for me that was
more than 15 years ago) and since pilots train for other than normal
circumstances while drivers do not, I see no problem with such a system
in aircraft.

Hmm ... does this rapid adjustment to reality apply generally?

Well, I've had this discussion with two other people from the same basic
age group, so for a sample size of three, it applies 100%.


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Jim Pennino

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On 2010-08-06, Jim Logajan wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:
My most interesting Usenet experience occurred when someone accused me
of NOT being Dudley Henriques as he knew Dudley Henriques and I wasn't
him.

Maybe you have an evil twin you don't know about?

My wife promptly answered his private email to me stating that if he
knew the real Dudley Henriques, would he be kind enough to ask him to
come home immediately as the impostor she had been living with for
over 40 years didn't like to do yard work.

While I'm not a fan of weeding or watering, I do take a certain
satisfaction in mowing the yard with our riding mower.

There's something about the riding mower that I enjoy. Not
sure what it is. I'd have to agree that mowing is acceptable
when a riding type is used. Especially if its got a big
2 or 3 bag catcher strapped to the back.

z

On Aug 6, 10:44*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Dudley Henriques writes:
Asking for experience, flying hours, qualifications etc are a total
waste of bandwidth on Usenet. The person being challenged could be a
trained Chimp with a keyboard or the King of Siam. They could also be
quite legitimate.

Which means I could also be working in aviation safety for a living. I could
even be working for the FAA.

The ONLY accurate measure of value on any Usenet forum is the accuracy
of the information posted proven over time. Posters are usually found
to be who they claim to be or not who they claim to be over time and
posting history based on the above.

I agree. However, I don't care who the posters are. They are either right or
wrong. I don't trust names or credentials. *Someone who is consistently right
will gradually earn my respect; someone who is too often wrong will be
promptly written off.

My most interesting Usenet experience occurred when someone accused me
of NOT being Dudley Henriques as he knew Dudley Henriques and I wasn't
him.
My wife promptly answered his private email to me stating that if he
knew the real Dudley Henriques, would he be kind enough to ask him to
come home immediately as the impostor she had been living with for
over 40 years didn't like to do yard work.

Perhaps the one he knew was the imposter.

I don't worry about that, as I've said above. So whether you are the real DH
or not doesn't matter. Only the things you post matter.

If I'm not mistaken, you have reposted almost verbatim what I just
said :-)
DH

Dudley Henriques writes:

If I'm not mistaken, you have reposted almost verbatim what I just
said :-)

I am indeed saying about the same thing that you are.

writes:

It is rather difficult to drive anything else these days unless you are
a collector of "classic" cars.

I don't even remember if my last car had ABS (a few years ago). I think maybe
it did. But it didn't have any stability stuff.

Well, I've had this discussion with two other people from the same basic
age group, so for a sample size of three, it applies 100%.

In that case, the adjustment from a simulator to real life or vice versa
should be equally trivial.

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

It is rather difficult to drive anything else these days unless you are
a collector of "classic" cars.

I don't even remember if my last car had ABS (a few years ago). I think maybe
it did. But it didn't have any stability stuff.

ABS is part of the "stability stuff" designed to keep the car from winding
up sideways in a panic stop.

Well, I've had this discussion with two other people from the same basic
age group, so for a sample size of three, it applies 100%.

In that case, the adjustment from a simulator to real life or vice versa
should be equally trivial.

Non sequitur.

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Jim Pennino

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"Mxsmanic" wrote

they
often don't understand that ABS does not reduce minimum stopping distance,

THAT shows how you speak about thing you don't fully understand. ABS DOES
shorten stopping distances, as the system can more precisely modulate the
brakes than any human is able.