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Old May 24th 05, 02:57 PM
George Patterson
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Ron Natalie wrote:

Customs owns the blackhawks too. They're on loan to the DC area
security efforts. Helicopters are a bit more appropriate (if you're
not going to fire weapons) than jets for shooing away wayward light
planes.


Helicopters are fine even if you *are* going to fire weapons (though it is to be
hoped that Customs doesn't own any "gunships").

George Patterson
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Old May 23rd 05, 09:57 PM
John T
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Peter R. wrote:

Really? A Citation jet intercepted the wayward C150? That's news to
me.


The Citation was involved in the intercept although the Blackhawk was the
one flying formation - at least until the F-16s showed up. That was
reported from the beginning.

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Old May 23rd 05, 10:32 PM
Peter R.
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John T wrote:

The Citation was involved in the intercept although the Blackhawk was

the
one flying formation - at least until the F-16s showed up. That was
reported from the beginning.


Thanks. I guess I missed that. These newsgroups should be required
reading for every pilot. :-)

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Old May 24th 05, 12:05 AM
Dave S
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Customs has been doing aerial intercept of aircraft for years, primarily
from an anti-drug standpoint. There are two based here in suburban
Houston, and we have had them as a speaker before (pre-9/11) regarding
their ops (safety meeting/PR material)

What were they doing? They were tracking the target. Just like they
always do.

Dave

Peter R. wrote:

John T wrote:


The Citation was involved in the intercept although the Blackhawk was


the

one flying formation - at least until the F-16s showed up. That was
reported from the beginning.



Thanks. I guess I missed that. These newsgroups should be required
reading for every pilot. :-)


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Old May 23rd 05, 10:58 PM
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"John T" wrote in message
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The Citation was involved in the intercept although the Blackhawk was the
one flying formation - at least until the F-16s showed up. That was
reported from the beginning.


Saying that the F16s were "flying formation" with the C150 is a bit of a
stretch of the term... You might as well say that buzzards circling overhead
as you're dying in the desert are "flying formation" with ya'...


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Old May 23rd 05, 11:41 PM
Denny
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Interested folks need to read Mr. Sheaffer's issued statement, reported
on AVWEB and AOPA....

denny

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Old May 24th 05, 01:46 PM
Ron Natalie
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Denny wrote:
Interested folks need to read Mr. Sheaffer's issued statement, reported
on AVWEB and AOPA....

denny

Mr. Sheaffer's statement was issued by his attorney (not a bad idea) and
should be taken with a LARGE amount of skepticism.
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Old May 24th 05, 12:01 AM
John Galban
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Grumman-581 wrote:
"John T" wrote in message
...
The Citation was involved in the intercept although the Blackhawk

was the
one flying formation - at least until the F-16s showed up. That

was
reported from the beginning.


Saying that the F16s were "flying formation" with the C150 is a bit

of a
stretch of the term... You might as well say that buzzards circling

overhead
as you're dying in the desert are "flying formation" with ya'...


He didn't say that. He said that the Blackhawk was flying formation
unil the F-16s got there. According to various reports, that's when
the Blackhawk broke off.

While working in a restricted area on a missile range in the 80s, I
once requested that some F-15s to intercept a hot air balloon that had
strayed over a hot range. Now that was a funny intercept!

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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Old May 23rd 05, 10:09 PM
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A.Coleman wrote:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...&sn=018&sc=478

AA Revokes License of D.C. 'Alert' Pilot
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Monday, May 23, 2005

(05-23) 12:15 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --

The government has revoked the license of the pilot in charge of the small
plane that strayed to within three miles of the White House on May 11,
forcing the panicked evacuation of thousands of people from the executive
mansion, Capitol and Supreme Court.

Though hundreds of people have mistakenly flown into Washington's restricted
airspace, this was believed to be the first such revocation.

The Federal Aviation Administration said Monday that it had issued an
emergency revocation of Hayden L. Sheaffer's pilot's license because he
"constitutes an unacceptable risk to safety in air commerce."

The agency said no action would be taken against Sheaffer's student, who was
also in the plane.


AOPA has said that Sheaffer is not an instructor, if correct Troy Martin
was not "his student" he was merely a passenger (legally anyway)

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Old May 24th 05, 01:46 PM
Ron Natalie
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xyzzy wrote:


AOPA has said that Sheaffer is not an instructor, if correct Troy Martin
was not "his student" he was merely a passenger (legally anyway)


Right, "a student" not "his student" would be a more appropriate word.
 




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