Need help in deciding in good headset

karl gruber wrote:
The major problem with the Lightspeeds is they can't be used in the co-pilot
position.

Can you explain this a little more?

"buttman" wrote in message
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karl gruber wrote:
The major problem with the Lightspeeds is they can't be used in the
co-pilot
position.

Can you explain this a little more?

The headsets have a specific left side and right side, and the cord comes
out of one side only (can't be switched from one side to the other). You
can't comfortable wear the headset reversed, nor can you move the cord from
one side to the other.

So, depending on where the hookups for your intercom are in the airplane,
you'll have to have a cord dangling across your lap in one or the other
seating positions (unless there are multiple choices for plugging into the
intercom...that does happen).

IMHO, it's the main problem with the Lightspeed headsets. They seem like
such a good value; I've tried them and found them very comfortable
otherwise, and the ANR works well. But I switch back and forth too often
for me to consider them as my primary headset.

Pete

"buttman" wrote in message
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karl gruber wrote:
The major problem with the Lightspeeds is they can't be used in the
co-pilot
position.

Can you explain this a little more?


That's a bit of an exaggeration. The issue (problem?) with lightspeeds is
that they are not reversable. The mic and cords are always on the left. What
this means is that if you're sitting on the right side of the airplane and
the plug-ins are on your right side, you'll have to figure out how to deal
with the wires.

Alternately, a similar issue exists if you're sitting on the left side and
the aircraft has center mounted intercom jacks.

I agree that it is a pain in the butt, man. ;-) I've discussed it with the
Lightspeed folks at a couple of shows and they say their headsets are
designed for optimum performance and they would need new molds to make
headsets with wires and the mic on the right side. This is because their
earcups are not symmetric from front to back. They have decided not to
produce a right mic/wire headset. I understand their rationale, but
disagree.

KB

My advice is to rent from your flight school for the first few lessons.
And rent all of the different types that they have - see what you like.
Then, before we can advise you on what to buy, we need to know your
intentions.
Are you aiming for a PPL and plan to own your own aircraft?
Or are you planning to fly for an airline?
Or . . .

Tony

--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE

wrote in message ...
Dear sir,
I m starting my flight training very soon.

I need some help in deciding a wersatile headset.
my budget is 300 $

David Clark headsets are bullet proof and they stand behind their product.
I have had many different headsets over the years but have always come
back to my DC's. My current inventory is 3 adult DC's and 2 youth DC's.
My oldest pair is from 1985 an it still works as good as it did the day I
bought it.
Unless your rich it does not make sense to buy a cheap pair while
training to upgrade later.
Does your local pilot shop do loaners?
The pilot shop at KORL would normally loan you a set so that you could
decide on which pair you wanted to buy.
I don't know if they still do this, but your local shop may have a similar
policy.
Another thing to keep in mind is not to place any permanent markings on it
if you plan on selling them at a later time to upgrade to something else.
Have you considered buying a set from a reputable EBay seller?
Most DC's can be bought an resold on EBay for little or no lose of money.

David - KGYH

karl gruber wrote:

The major problem with the Lightspeeds is they can't be used in the
co-pilot position. So along with being delicate, even a flight instructor
would have to fight the cords.

why not? I have been using my Lightspeeds from either left or right
seat without any problem...

--Sylvain

Peter Duniho wrote:
"buttman" wrote in message
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karl gruber wrote:
The major problem with the Lightspeeds is they can't be used in the
co-pilot
position.

Can you explain this a little more?

The headsets have a specific left side and right side, and the cord comes
out of one side only (can't be switched from one side to the other). You
can't comfortable wear the headset reversed, nor can you move the cord from
one side to the other.

So, depending on where the hookups for your intercom are in the airplane,
you'll have to have a cord dangling across your lap in one or the other
seating positions (unless there are multiple choices for plugging into the
intercom...that does happen).

IMHO, it's the main problem with the Lightspeed headsets. They seem like
such a good value; I've tried them and found them very comfortable
otherwise, and the ANR works well. But I switch back and forth too often
for me to consider them as my primary headset.

Pete


Interesting. I got into the habit of having the mic always on the left
side. When I started flying right seat, I never thought to switch. It
never bothered me.

Peter Duniho wrote:

So, depending on where the hookups for your intercom are in the airplane,
you'll have to have a cord dangling across your lap in one or the other
seating positions

....and how is that a problem?

hey, may be there is a market for bluetooth aviation headsets after
all, never realized that some people could be so fussy.

--Sylvain

"buttman" wrote in message
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Interesting. I got into the habit of having the mic always on the left
side. When I started flying right seat, I never thought to switch. It
never bothered me.

Well, good for you. Suffice to say, there are people who care.

Another issue that I forgot to mention is that depending on the
configuration of the seatbelts, size of the pilot, and exact position of the
headset, having the mic boom on the same side as the shoulder harness can be
a real pain. Imagine getting your mic caught on the shoulder harness every
time you turn to look out the side window of the airplane.

Anyway, the point is that some people *do* have preferences with respect to
where the mic boom and/or route of the headset cable is, and for some of
those people, that preference depends on the seating position in the
airplane. For those people, having a headset that can be worn in only one
way is not tenable.

Pete

Yes, headsets for crews are designed so that the microphone and cords can be
switched from the right to left side. Kind of like when flying from the
right side you use your right hand on the yoke and left on the throttle
quadrant.

The mike should be on the right side for the pilot on the right. EVERY
airliner is set up this way. Every corporate jet is as well. Lightspeeds do
not have this feature, and are designed for the left seat only.

Best,
Karl
"Curator" N185KG



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karl gruber wrote:
The major problem with the Lightspeeds is they can't be used in the
co-pilot
position.

Can you explain this a little more?