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New Butterfly Vario
On Feb 10, 11:13*am, wrote:
On Feb 10, 1:49*pm, Ron Gleason wrote: On Feb 10, 5:54*am, T8 wrote: On Feb 10, 7:26*am, Andy wrote: What do you mean by "bank indicator (still allowed)" ? That's his checkbook register. *After buying that fancy ASG-29, it's a pretty small number and hence easy to read in the cockpit. *The fear of damaging damaging such a valuable asset keeps him out of cloud :-).. -T8 (slipping, one bubble off center) I have read the position released by the RC,http://www.ssa.org/files/member/Rest...t%20Policy.pdf, and am trying to understand how the process will work from a competitors, RC chairperson and a SSA sanctioned competition score keeper (I have scored contests *the last couple of years and have plans to do so in 2012). The document reads: 2. By waiver, the RC may allow the installation of such a device if the RC determines that the “artificial horizon” or “turn and bank” capability can be effectively and verifiably disabled for the period of the competition. 3. To obtain a waiver a competitor must: a. Ensure that the device in the configuration to be used is submitted to the RC for inspection well before the intended use (at least one month). This must also include a statement of compliance from the manufacturer. b. Request and obtain the waiver from the RC 4. The RC will use the following criteria in determining whether a specific device is eligible for waiver: a. It must be obvious to the casual observer that the forbidden capabilities are disabled or entirely absent when the device powers up and when the disablement will expire. b. It must not be possible to re-enable the forbidden capabilities during the period of competition. Examples of re-enablement scenarios would include: i. Reloading firmware ii. Changing device settings iii. Performing any kind of hardware reset (e.g. removing backup battery) 5. The procedure for using the device is expected to be: a. The competitor with a waiver disables the capability at the beginning of the contest b. The competitor demonstrates to an appropriate contest official (e.g. CD, scorer) that the disabling has been done. c. After 14 days the disablement expires (i.e. daily checking of IGC logs is not an acceptable process) ?? *Does 3a mean that the competitor must submit the instrument from their plane to the RC for inspection? ?? *Not sure how 4a is to followed. *Will each instrument that receives a waiver be documented and that documentation be available to all *SSA members, CD's, and scorers? ?? *How are CD's and scorers suppose to know how each instrument works and the setup being shown to them is compliant? ?? *Are the contest registration forms and/or checklists being updated so that contest organizers and other personnel *know to check for waivers, similar to insurance forms? I believe that advances in technology and instruments are great and will greatly enhance our flying enjoyment and safety. *I am concerned and eager to understand how this procedure will affect the workload of contest organizers and rules committee members. Ron Gleason Hi Ron It is expected that manufacturer's will submit representative units so that the RC can determine that they comply. We fully expect a list of compliant devices to result. No we don't know where that list will live. A complying instrument will display the information required to veriify on start up. A contest official observes once and it's done. Much of how this is being handled is targeted toward not increasing the score's workload. This is why saving compliance information on the flight log was determined to not be acceptable. No forms will need to change. It is up to the pilot, if he has one of these, to demonstate compliance. The other option is a screw driver. We understand that new stuff is coming and this is why this policy was created to get ahead of it and give pilots and manufacturers some reasonable way to comply with a long standing rule. The iPhone 4 and 4S (along with the newest Android and Windows phones) contain 3-axis gyroscope and accelerometer sensors, and that there are already at least two "artificial horizon" applications in the App store. Both appear to be rather poorly implemented, but there is nothing inherently preventing someone from creating an effective (and accurate) implementation using known sensor fusion techniques. This can't be disabled, and even if the iPhone is inspected and determined to be free of offending apps, the phone can simply be synced with a laptop to reinstall in a matter of moments. I suspect there will be some resistance to banning these phones... Marc |
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