Here's evidence why the gov't assholes overreacted.

It's come out that the C150 was squawking VFR. Why on F*g earth would a
pilot on a supposed suicide-bomb mission bother to have his damned
transponder on, much less squawk 1200 while penetrating the ADIZ? Doesn't
make sense.

I believe I heard that the 9/11 hijackers knew enough to turn their
transponders off.

"R.L." wrote in message
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It's come out that the C150 was squawking VFR. [...]

That the evidence you come up with?

Come on...surely you can do better than pointing to the transponder. How
about IT WAS A FRIGGIN' CESSNA 150!

Practically everything security-related that followed 9/11 has been an
over-reaction.

even a c150 can carry a small nuclear bomb


On Wed, 11 May 2005 22:21:03 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
wrote:

"R.L." wrote in message
. com...
It's come out that the C150 was squawking VFR. [...]

That the evidence you come up with?

Come on...surely you can do better than pointing to the transponder. How
about IT WAS A FRIGGIN' CESSNA 150!

Practically everything security-related that followed 9/11 has been an
over-reaction.

usedtobe wrote:

even a c150 can carry a small nuclear bomb

What's the lightest known nuclear bomb weigh? "Nuclear" as in "fission" or
"fusion", not merely "dirty" with radioactive material.

--
John T
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http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415
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In a previous article, "John T" said:
usedtobe wrote:
even a c150 can carry a small nuclear bomb

What's the lightest known nuclear bomb weigh? "Nuclear" as in "fission" or
"fusion", not merely "dirty" with radioactive material.

The one in the (nuclear) ALCM, the W-80, is about 300 pounds.


--
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The magic BOFH-phrase you need to summon at this point is:
"_Your_ lack of planning is not about to become _my_ emergency."
-- Tanuki

In article , John T wrote:
usedtobe wrote:

even a c150 can carry a small nuclear bomb

What's the lightest known nuclear bomb weigh? "Nuclear" as in "fission" or
"fusion", not merely "dirty" with radioactive material.

The 51lb warhead that was used in the Davy Crockett nuclear mortar. It
was an implosion-type plutonium design, with a user-selectable yield of
10 to 250t. It was designed and tested by the US, and 2100 of them were
deployed between 1961 and 1971. The entire Davy Crockett round weighed
76lbs. It was the smallest nuclear weapon manufactured by the United
States, and close to the theoretical smallest size for a nuclear weapon.
Other weapons (artillery shells) of similar (1kt and less) which were
slimmer have been made and tested by the US too.

However, they are all accounted for. I doubt terrorists have had access
to the technology or an actual bomb of this size (otherwise they'd have
used it in lieu of commercial aircraft on Sept. 11th). A 'home made'
terrorist nuke would likely be too large and too heavy to get into
anything smaller than a B727.

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
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"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

John T wrote:
usedtobe wrote:

even a c150 can carry a small nuclear bomb

What's the lightest known nuclear bomb weigh? "Nuclear" as in
"fission" or
"fusion", not merely "dirty" with radioactive material.

--
John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415
____________________


Even a dirty bomb blown up a thousand feet over the capital, would stop
the government for weeks.

In article .com, Sport Pilot wrote:
Even a dirty bomb blown up a thousand feet over the capital, would stop
the government for weeks.

Unlikely; I'm sure the government has a disaster recovery plan. There's
no reason why they couldn't assemble elsewhere. Even fairly small
businesses usually have a disaster recovery plan to allow them to
continue to operate in the case that their main facility is out of
action.

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

Sport Pilot wrote:


Even a dirty bomb blown up a thousand feet over the capital, would stop
the government for weeks.


Actually, it would just displace it. There have been contingencies for
the congress operating outside of the Capitol building (and it's
adjacent office buidlings) since the cold war. A dirty bomb set off
in the places you can still drive a SUV around the capitol would
accomplish the same thing.

No F16's come after me when I drive my monster truck up Capitol Hill.

John T wrote:

What's the lightest known nuclear bomb weigh?Â*Â*"Nuclear"Â*asÂ*inÂ*"fission"
or "fusion", not merely "dirty" with radioactive material.

I don't know that it's true, of course, but I've read several times that the
old Soviet Union had managed to build "suitcase" bombs. Of course, that
addresses more volume than mass, but I'd guess that these would be designed
to weigh as little as possible.

Still, and aircraft would be a poor way to deliver a nuke into DC when cars,
vans, trucks, and USPS deliveries are all available alternatives. If there
were a serious interest in security, these would all be kept out.

- Andrew