Got to land a King Air 90 today...

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

And TECHNICALLY, Ron's not a CFI, so I guess I can't legally can't log the
time.

Does he hold an ATP certificate?

Did he instruct you in "air transportation"; not flying the KA, but in how
to conduct charter operations?

There are gray areas, but generally, for that, a CFI is not required.

JG

Mike Rapoport wrote:
Or its not true.
flying 50hrs/yr. If you look around you will see that almost nobody is
even asking $900/hr for charter work and presumably they intend to make a
profit. It would be cheaper to charter a Citation than a KA90 if the KA90
was $900hr.

NetJets charges $1200/hr for Citation SII's in its fleet. That's
fractional ownership.

Mike Rapoport wrote:
What's a JetProp? I'm up for it, whatever it is!

Twin Commander. It has a high wing...you might not like it...

Just like that thing that was parked next to me at OSH last summer!

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:ITU%b.426694$na.929519@attbi_s04...
How does it feel to have turbine time in your logbook?

Well, TECHNICALLY, not being multi-engine rated, I suppose I can't
legally
log the time.

And TECHNICALLY, Ron's not a CFI, so I guess I can't legally can't log
the
time.

You can log whatever you want. You just can't use the time toward some
FAA
requirement. Make sure it's noted/excluded somehow, and otherwise put it
in
the log book however you want.

But you know what? I'm not building hours for anything or anyone. I'm
gonna write 'em in the book anyway! :-)

I'm still trying to figure out why TECHNICALLY you are permitted to
manipulate the controls during a for-pay charter flight, even if the
flight
is under Part 91.

I suspect you broke an FAR somewhere, but I admit that I don't know where
that FAR might be. Not in Part 91, I know that.


When they took off over gross in the 150. Great story until that point.


Pete

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

So, does he sign my logbook, or do I just log the time?

Have him sign the book. Legitimate instruction, legitimately given. To
tell you the truth, though, I'm damned if I could tell you what it would be
good towards! Perhaps your own ATP?

"John Gaquin" wrote in message Have him sign the book. Legitimate
instruction, legitimately given. To
tell you the truth, though, I'm damned if I could tell you what it would
be
good towards! Perhaps your own ATP?

In the old days when common sense ruled the land, an ATP could endorse other
pilots' logbooks for instruction in air transportation. Now it can be done
only if the position requires an ATP.

D.

"john smith" wrote in message NetJets charges $1200/hr for Citation SII's
in its fleet. That's fractional ownership.

And... that's why many savvy businessmen stay away from the fractionals.

I charge $900/hr retail for a -200 under part 135.

D.

I know. Its cheaper to go 400kts for $1200/hr then it is to go 230kts for
$900/hr. You can charter a Citation for $1400/hr.

Mike
MU-2


"john smith" wrote in message
...
Mike Rapoport wrote:
Or its not true.
flying 50hrs/yr. If you look around you will see that almost nobody is
even asking $900/hr for charter work and presumably they intend to make
a
profit. It would be cheaper to charter a Citation than a KA90 if the
KA90
was $900hr.

NetJets charges $1200/hr for Citation SII's in its fleet. That's
fractional ownership.

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I doubt that they are taking a loss on their *asking* price, particularly
since the standard *asking* price of a chartered C90 seems to be
$775-$850.

And that's why I'm wondering where the $900 came from.


The Jetprop 1000 is more comperable to a B200 than a C90. Remember they
were only paying one pilot (and maybe not even him) too!

Likewise. Our company has NO dedicated pilots, and our 1000 costs about $660
an hour for total costs (335 hours total FT in 2003..earlier I'd said $625
for direct, but I think it's more like $575...I'll run the numbers when I go
back on Monday) and that includes twice annual FlightSafety courses for
five. But then, we're paying well under $2.00 a gallon for Jet-A...


Mike
MU-2

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Maybe I can talk the boss into a trip out there and you can get some
JetProp
time.

What's a JetProp? I'm up for it, whatever it is!

Used to be the Rockwell JetProp, now it's called the Twin Commander. It runs
the spread from the 690 to the 695,A,B models. Twin TPE331-10 engines. The
most gut wrenching accelleration you've ever felt short of a Porsche.

Do you have a Skyraider room? If so, he definitely WILL come out.

Well, that will depend on our decision regarding the Viet Nam era. I
suspect it will be called the "Phantom Suite" just because of the double
meaning of the word.

This is an important distinction for us. You and I know the "Memphis
Belle"
suite is about a bomber, but most of our guests think it's decorated in an
English Country style, and sounds pretty.

Hmm...the Skyraider suite would have to be done up in jungle motif :~(


"Skyraider" will probably be discarded for the same reason "Hellcat"
was --
we just don't want that kind of name associated with the hotel, since the
uninformed (who make up the majority of our guests) will misinterpret the
meaning. (Heck, I even had the "Hellcat Suite" door plaque made before we
decided against *that* one...)

Well, just call the Skyraider room the "Sandy Room". :~)
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