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Old September 14th 04, 10:22 AM
rob
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Hi

Somebody who knows nothing here :-)

I was wondering how alert a carrier is during a normal peacetime cruise
Do they constantly have early warning aircraft aloft?
If something untoward happens how long would it take to be fully battle
ready?


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Old September 14th 04, 02:31 PM
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roball- I was wondering how alert a carrier is during a normal peacetime
cruise
Do they constantly have early warning aircraft aloft?
If something untoward happens how long would it take to be fully battle
ready? BRBR

We stood alert all the time when at sea, normally alert 15 but sometimes alert
5(airborne in that time frame). Ship was always 'ready', cats with steam, etc.
E-2 and other assets also stood alert all the time. If in a fairly benign
envirnment, I'd say about 15-30 minutes.
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
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Old September 14th 04, 10:51 PM
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:22:21 +1200, "rob" wrote:

I was wondering how alert a carrier is during a normal peacetime cruise


What kind of cruise? You mean deployment? Or training cruise? Or
Tiger Cruise? Or stateside going-from-here-to-there cruise? They
might not even have any aircraft aboard, depending on the
circumstance.

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Old September 15th 04, 02:39 AM
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In article ,
Andrew C. Toppan wrote:

I was wondering how alert a carrier is during a normal peacetime cruise


What kind of cruise? You mean deployment? Or training cruise? Or
Tiger Cruise? Or stateside going-from-here-to-there cruise? They
might not even have any aircraft aboard, depending on the
circumstance.



In Navy parlance (at least CV/CVN) a "cruise" means a 6 or 6+ month
deployment.


Training deployments are not called "cruises" (at least not by people in
the Navy); they are called "work-ups"...and there is ALWAYS at least
some aircraft aboard (minimum 2-3 helos) I don't think anybody
interprets a tiger cruise as a cruise, although they very often are at
the tale end of real cruises (in the Pac fleet, on return from a real
cruise and coming aboard at Hawaii).

To answer the original poster; Even in peace time, a carrier and it's
CVW can achieve war time footing very quickly even in peace time. All it
takes is moving the missiles, bombs, ammo, and torpedos up the weapons
elevators and getting them loaded.


In an HS example (which is all I can speak competently about), we're
talking maybe 2-3 hours to get the torps and depth charges up to the
flight deck and loaded and maybe 30-45 minutes to get the door guns up
and loaded.


--Mike
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Old September 15th 04, 03:38 AM
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 01:39:06 GMT, Michael Wise wrote:

In Navy parlance (at least CV/CVN) a "cruise" means a 6 or 6+ month
deployment.


Since he said it was a newbie question, I figured it was a more
generic definition of "cruise", not the Navy's specific (and somewhat
obscure) version.

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Old September 15th 04, 11:01 PM
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On 15 Sep 2004 03:11:07 GMT, Clark wrote:

Wah, Wah, Wah. When you are wrong, admit it and move on.


That would be fine if I was wrong. I gave a reasonable and correct
answer - just not the one YOU wanted. Why are you the arbiter of what
is correct?

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Old September 16th 04, 02:42 AM
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Thanks to all for the replies


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Old September 19th 04, 06:00 AM
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"Clark" wrote in message
...
Andrew C. Toppan wrote in
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On 15 Sep 2004 03:11:07 GMT, Clark wrote:

Wah, Wah, Wah. When you are wrong, admit it and move on.


That would be fine if I was wrong. I gave a reasonable and correct
answer - just not the one YOU wanted. Why are you the arbiter of what
is correct?

It has nothing to do with my wants, it has to do with your error. To wit:

Mr.
Wise correctly noted there will always be aircraft on a carrier.


A more accurate statement is that there is *usually* aircraft on a carrier.

Larry
AECS (AW/SW/MTS)
USN 'Retired'
20 years if gettin 'em off the pointy end
AND safely home again!


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Old September 19th 04, 06:41 AM
Dave in San diego
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Clark wrote in
:

Andrew C. Toppan wrote in
:

On 15 Sep 2004 03:11:07 GMT, Clark wrote:

Wah, Wah, Wah. When you are wrong, admit it and move on.


That would be fine if I was wrong. I gave a reasonable and correct
answer - just not the one YOU wanted. Why are you the arbiter of
what is correct?

It has nothing to do with my wants, it has to do with your error. To
wit: Mr. Wise correctly noted there will always be aircraft on a
carrier. You neglected to note the error of your comment, much less
accept the correction.

In short, you *are* wrong, twice now.


In my experience of serving on a carrier, there were NOT always aircraft
aboard. I don't recall ever pulling into our home port with embarked a/c,
and there were a couple of times when we went almost 24 hrs unadorned
with flying machines of any type when we were close to home. What say,
Pechs? We were there at the same time - CV-41.
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Old September 19th 04, 08:03 AM
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"Dave in San diego" wrote in message
. ..
Clark wrote in
:

Andrew C. Toppan wrote in
:

On 15 Sep 2004 03:11:07 GMT, Clark wrote:

Wah, Wah, Wah. When you are wrong, admit it and move on.

That would be fine if I was wrong. I gave a reasonable and correct
answer - just not the one YOU wanted. Why are you the arbiter of
what is correct?

It has nothing to do with my wants, it has to do with your error. To
wit: Mr. Wise correctly noted there will always be aircraft on a
carrier. You neglected to note the error of your comment, much less
accept the correction.

In short, you *are* wrong, twice now.


In my experience of serving on a carrier, there were NOT always aircraft
aboard.


Agreed.

In fact, occasionally the flight deck is packed with POV's for a *special
transit*. POV's are more commonly known as automobiles for those of you
folks not used to Navy jargon. :-))

Larry
AECS (AW/SW/MTS)
USN 'Usta Be'


 




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