Reported by CNN this morning!!!!!

"Michael McNulty" writes:

big deal, OK so I am a little suprised that a guy felt the need in a
twotter,
but whatever, he was tired, the FP was obviously more than capable, or so
the
NFP would have thought, or he would not have been sleeping.
Regards this issue, it is all about perception, not safety.


Then lets eliminate the required second crew member, if he is not really
needed, and save the labor expense.

How do you eliminate a second crew member for enroute only?

--kyler

In article , Kyler Laird
writes:


Then lets eliminate the required second crew member, if he is not really
needed, and save the labor expense.

How do you eliminate a second crew member for enroute only?

--kyler



Just like ships at sea do when they pickup the harbor pilot, they stop and wait
for the pilot to come on board. BFG


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KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
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In article ,
RobertR237 wrote:
In article , Kyler Laird
writes:


Then lets eliminate the required second crew member, if he is not really
needed, and save the labor expense.

How do you eliminate a second crew member for enroute only?

--kyler



Just like ships at sea do when they pickup the harbor pilot, they stop and wait
for the pilot to come on board. BFG

Wasn't it "Airport 77" where they delivered a pilot to the plane, _in_flight_?
snicker

Michael McNulty wrote:


Then lets eliminate the required second crew member, if he is not really
needed, and save the labor expense.


Oh hell, I used to drive a truck, and that think had a queen sized bed
right behind the driver. Only ONE person can fly the damn plane, and in
cruise flight it barely needs that.


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prglqw

Without getting into dirty details and War Stories, I concur.

If asked, I wonder if the passengers would have rather had the Capt
awake on cruise portion of trip and tired when his experteze might be
needed on landing or have him let the qualified CP fly enroute (most
CP's love and fight to get stick time) and he dozed off?

Sounds to me like a no brainer.


Big John


On 19 Jul 2003 21:31:19 GMT, (Prglgw) wrote:

Those of you that find this "unacceptable" have never worked in the
envinronment.
others are well aware.
The only person who may be in the wrong here is the FO if he observed the
filming and did not wake the NFP / CPT.
I have spent many many hours both RHS and now LHS in 747`s, both freight and
pax, guess what... we sleep in cruise from time to time!! and I am much more
comfortable sleeping in the seat, than in the bunks, ( obviously a luxury many
types do not have)
big deal, OK so I am a little suprised that a guy felt the need in a twotter,
but whatever, he was tired, the FP was obviously more than capable, or so the
NFP would have thought, or he would not have been sleeping.
Regards this issue, it is all about perception, not safety.

In article , Big John
writes:


Without getting into dirty details and War Stories, I concur.

If asked, I wonder if the passengers would have rather had the Capt
awake on cruise portion of trip and tired when his experteze might be
needed on landing or have him let the qualified CP fly enroute (most
CP's love and fight to get stick time) and he dozed off?

Sounds to me like a no brainer.


Big John



You would have people use logic but emotion rules, not logic.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

RobertR237 wrote:

In article , Big John
writes:


Without getting into dirty details and War Stories, I concur.

If asked, I wonder if the passengers would have rather had the Capt
awake on cruise portion of trip and tired when his experteze might be
needed on landing or have him let the qualified CP fly enroute (most
CP's love and fight to get stick time) and he dozed off?

Sounds to me like a no brainer.


Big John



You would have people use logic but emotion rules, not logic.

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

Not on TV, Robert.
Especially not on the news...