Good Luck, Jim!

In article , ChuckSlusarczyk says...

From the sound of it if he can't afford to put a few bucks down to prove he's
right I doubt he ever bought a new truck let alone 3 in 6 years .

Before I get called a liar by jaun I must correct what I said It should have
been "3 in 7 years".I had a Red 1997 ,then a Blue 2000 and now a silver 2003
Dodge Ram . I needed to correct that before jaun started saying see he's a liar
it was 7 years not 6 LOL!!!

See ya

Chuck

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:18:25 -0400, "red12049"
wrote:

Juan,

Excuse me, but where I come from, if you make the accusations, you have to
supply the proof.....

Red

I don't think that's what Juan wants. I've been thinking about this
as I read the many seemingly insane responses from him and I believe
Juan is playing a role.

He dodges and twists out of what nearly anyone would consider to be a
normal response to a direct question, nearly every time. Now, why
would he do that? Why juke so fiercely in so public a forum?

To me, it's because he has an agenda when it comes to Chuck. Think
about it. Chuck has always offered the evidence, which he has in
physical documents, to anyone who would want to confirm that what
Chuck is claiming is the literal truth: That Jim Campbell is mistaken
about Con and his case against Chuck. Neither Juan, nor his
"employer" Zoomer have chosen to view the evidence. Why not? If they
are jounalists seeking the "truth" as they often claim (especially
Campbell), why wouldn't they want to get to the bottom of this once
and for all?

The answer, to me, lies in the (diagnosed) neurosis afflicting
Cambell, and the mindset and water under the bridge for Juan.
Campbell cannot view the documents because it would expose him as
someone who has pursued a valse vendetta literally for years. His
whole psyche has been wrapped around being the one who exposes
falsehood and treachery. He cannot look at Chuck's evidence, it would
turn his world upside down. And, if he admits that he was mistaken,
it might very well lay him open to a harrasement lawsuit. So that's
not going to happen.

And Juan, Juan has been carrying Jim's spear for years now. He has
been close to Jim and has been jabbing Chuck all this time as Jim's
unholy paladin. Juan also cannot look at the evidence because what if
it proves Chuck right? All the past goads, the taunting, the
accusations would be exposed as the workings of a monumentally
misguided person. How can he risk that? He **KNOWS** the evidence
probably does exonerate Chuck because one of his collegues, who also
worked for Jim and also had jabbed at Chuck actually did sit down with
Chuck to view the papers. Once he saw the evidence, he was man enough
to admit that Jim was apparently mistaken, and said so publically here
in this group.

Juan can't do that. He has to do what he does best, ignor the
evidence sitting in front of his face and twist out of the way of
questions, like Neo dodging bullets in "The Matrix."

Corky Scott

"Corky Scott" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:18:25 -0400, "red12049"
wrote:

Juan,

Excuse me, but where I come from, if you make the accusations, you have
to
supply the proof.....

Red

I don't think that's what Juan wants. I've been thinking about this
as I read the many seemingly insane responses from him and I believe
Juan is playing a role.

He dodges and twists out of what nearly anyone would consider to be a
normal response to a direct question, nearly every time. Now, why
would he do that? Why juke so fiercely in so public a forum?

To me, it's because he has an agenda when it comes to Chuck. Think
about it. Chuck has always offered the evidence, which he has in
physical documents, to anyone who would want to confirm that what
Chuck is claiming is the literal truth: That Jim Campbell is mistaken
about Con and his case against Chuck. Neither Juan, nor his
"employer" Zoomer have chosen to view the evidence. Why not? If they
are jounalists seeking the "truth" as they often claim (especially
Campbell), why wouldn't they want to get to the bottom of this once
and for all?

The answer, to me, lies in the (diagnosed) neurosis afflicting
Cambell, and the mindset and water under the bridge for Juan.
Campbell cannot view the documents because it would expose him as
someone who has pursued a valse vendetta literally for years. His
whole psyche has been wrapped around being the one who exposes
falsehood and treachery. He cannot look at Chuck's evidence, it would
turn his world upside down. And, if he admits that he was mistaken,
it might very well lay him open to a harrasement lawsuit. So that's
not going to happen.

And Juan, Juan has been carrying Jim's spear for years now. He has
been close to Jim and has been jabbing Chuck all this time as Jim's
unholy paladin. Juan also cannot look at the evidence because what if
it proves Chuck right? All the past goads, the taunting, the
accusations would be exposed as the workings of a monumentally
misguided person. How can he risk that? He **KNOWS** the evidence
probably does exonerate Chuck because one of his collegues, who also
worked for Jim and also had jabbed at Chuck actually did sit down with
Chuck to view the papers. Once he saw the evidence, he was man enough
to admit that Jim was apparently mistaken, and said so publically here
in this group.

Juan can't do that. He has to do what he does best, ignor the
evidence sitting in front of his face and twist out of the way of
questions, like Neo dodging bullets in "The Matrix."

Corky Scott

Well then. If this is so the controversy will rage on forever until
settled in a court of law, not for harassment but on a civil complaint for
libel and damage to Chuck's business relations.

In the meantime quality time for building is wasted and I'm wondering if the
unmoderated forums won't wither and die because of constant assaults by the
trolls like Jaun and Granolawicz.

In article , "Larry Smith"
writes:


Well then. If this is so the controversy will rage on forever until
settled in a court of law, not for harassment but on a civil complaint for
libel and damage to Chuck's business relations.

In the meantime quality time for building is wasted and I'm wondering if the
unmoderated forums won't wither and die because of constant assaults by the
trolls like Jaun and Granolawicz.



You forgot to add one of the worst offenders here...Latchless Larry Smith!


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

In article ,
(Corky Scott) writes:


I don't think that's what Juan wants. I've been thinking about this
as I read the many seemingly insane responses from him and I believe
Juan is playing a role.


Yep, he is playing the role of a fool and is so good at it that one wonders if
he is playing or not. The more he posts, the easier it is to believe that it
is not a role but the real Zoom...I mean Jaun.

He dodges and twists out of what nearly anyone would consider to be a
normal response to a direct question, nearly every time. Now, why
would he do that? Why juke so fiercely in so public a forum?


The child wants your attention and even bad attention is better than no
attention at all. His mommy must have taken his pacifier away from him too
soon.

To me, it's because he has an agenda when it comes to Chuck. Think
about it. Chuck has always offered the evidence, which he has in
physical documents, to anyone who would want to confirm that what
Chuck is claiming is the literal truth: That Jim Campbell is mistaken
about Con and his case against Chuck. Neither Juan, nor his
"employer" Zoomer have chosen to view the evidence. Why not? If they
are jounalists seeking the "truth" as they often claim (especially
Campbell), why wouldn't they want to get to the bottom of this once
and for all?


His agenda against Chuck is rooted in one simple fact which should by now be
clear to everyone. He wants the approval of Zoom and to get his pathetic
attempts at writing published in ANN. The continued attacks on Chuck are
passed along to Zoom, who is too chicken **** to show his face on RAH, and they
both pat themselves on the back for their efforts. Its all about attention and
approval. Hell, look at his website shrine to Jim Bede and the fan club he
setup for him.

The answer, to me, lies in the (diagnosed) neurosis afflicting
Cambell, and the mindset and water under the bridge for Juan.
Campbell cannot view the documents because it would expose him as
someone who has pursued a valse vendetta literally for years. His
whole psyche has been wrapped around being the one who exposes
falsehood and treachery. He cannot look at Chuck's evidence, it would
turn his world upside down. And, if he admits that he was mistaken,
it might very well lay him open to a harrasement lawsuit. So that's
not going to happen.


You are right on, they both have the same problems. Birds of a feather and all
that.

And Juan, Juan has been carrying Jim's spear for years now. He has
been close to Jim and has been jabbing Chuck all this time as Jim's
unholy paladin. Juan also cannot look at the evidence because what if
it proves Chuck right? All the past goads, the taunting, the
accusations would be exposed as the workings of a monumentally
misguided person. How can he risk that? He **KNOWS** the evidence
probably does exonerate Chuck because one of his collegues, who also
worked for Jim and also had jabbed at Chuck actually did sit down with
Chuck to view the papers. Once he saw the evidence, he was man enough
to admit that Jim was apparently mistaken, and said so publically here
in this group.


Look at Juan's history, not just with Chuck and Zoom but with Jim Bede as well.
You are right, Jaun will never examine any evidence that would be contrary to
what he wants to believe.

Juan can't do that. He has to do what he does best, ignor the
evidence sitting in front of his face and twist out of the way of
questions, like Neo dodging bullets in "The Matrix."

Corky Scott

The only thing that will work with Jaun is to shun him totally. He needs the
attention and the controversy to maintain his status, without it he would just
fade away to what he really is...nothing.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

On 23 Oct 2003 05:28:52 -0700, ChuckSlusarczyk
wrote:



I suppose if I did a criminal record search of all the jiminezes I'd probably
come up with a ton of names and I would also bet a lot of them are named jaun as
well. So I if I were use jauns logic against him as he does me I could say
what's the criminal charges your hiding? He's a real joke.


See ya

Chuck


I just did a count on the Juan Jimenezs with criminal records in
Texas. 549 just in Texas. I could have saved some time though. There
were only 15 Juanitas.

By the way, anyone know what state Juan is in?

By the way, anyone know what state Juan is in?

I thought he went back to PR which was his way of weaseling out of actually flying
the BD-5, since you can't get anywhere from PR on the 5's range.

"andy asberry" wrote in message
...

By the way, anyone know what state Juan is in?


Check out the "dfw.general" newsgroup. I'd say he's in Texas.

-cj

unmoderated forums won't wither and die because of constant
assaults by the
trolls like Jaun and Granolawicz.



You forgot to add one of the worst offenders here...Latchless Larry
Smith!


Jual and Larry are both in my kill file, eventuall I got fed up with
all the bickering over what who said what. Because you lot still
reply to their moronic meanderings I have to suffer their wanton
prose. Please, Please can we leave this pair of twits where they
belong and get on with the persuit of that unfortunate who used a V-8
in his Sea Bee.:-)
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Cheers,
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Antispam trap in place



Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

andy asberry wrote:

By the way, anyone know what state Juan is in?

Either confusion or denial.

Dave 'futility' Hyde

....who thinks this has gotten a little out of hand.