For Keith Willshaw...

In article ,
on 08 Jun 2004 21:58:19 GMT,
Denyav attempted to say .....

As a result Kimmel and Short were sent a message that
began "This is to be considered a war warning"

They also added that Pearl Harbor was only possible target.period.

Bullcrap

It did no such thing and to state otherwise is dishonest.

You have proven you havn't read the war warning that was sent on 28 Nov 1941


So which is it ?
Did he try to contact people or do nothing

Do you think that Navy and Army units in Pasific were alerted and waiting for
Japanase to attack?

They had been givin warning on 28 Nov.


Hardly a blueprint of the Pearl Harbor attack plan.

You could only say that if officers of US military intelligence had NOT told to
their superiors cleary "Target is Pearl Harbor" but they did say exactly that
since Nov,28.

When and where did they do so ?

So since Nov,28 they knew the target thanks to work of a few men.
Since their superiors did not respond to their warnings one of
them,Thurman,sidestepped the line of command and personaly went all way up to
White House,with very clear warning of japanase attack with the name of the
target "Pearl Harbor".

Reprinting a lie does not make it so. The 14 part message had no referance
to any target.



For you I'm sure thats true.


Put the blame on Guetenberg and also countless creators of the "
Information Age".

Perhaps you should try reading some and come back ?


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When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.

In article ,
on 11 Jun 2004 04:53:45 GMT,
Denyav attempted to say .....

US engagement in WW2 was in response to an attack just before a declaration
of war by Japan and another attack just after a declaration of war by
Germany.


1)If you read some history,you must know that FDR was very eager for US
engagement.
2)If you read history you must also know that that FDR promised the nation not
enter war unless attacked (a requirement of domestic politics)

A solution to satisfy two contradictionary requirements=The Pearl Harbor trap


The hole in your argument is a ship called the USS Ruben James.

Go look her up and get back to us.


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When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.

In article ,
on 10 Jun 2004 06:05:02 GMT,
Denyav attempted to say .....


Military Intelligence Characters of this movie were based on real characters
moreover they and/or their relatives were interviewed by the the makers of the
movie.

Are you basing your entire argument on the movie "Pearl Harbor" ???



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When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.

In article ,
on 10 Jun 2004 15:33:20 GMT,
Denyav attempted to say .....

Now what bill was passed to clear Kimmel? Who presented it in the Senate and
who presented it in the House? When was this done?


Bill passed in 1999.
I got to check for the sponsors.



Not holding my breath waiting for you to get back to us with them either...

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When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.

In article ,
on 09 Jun 2004 15:49:02 GMT,
Denyav attempted to say .....

1) They didnt


This is the whole point .according to the Government they did not,according to
the Intelligence officers they did and they did it repeately.
On eve of Pearl Harbor attact,even during a secret White House meeting they
discussed their Pearl Harbor specific information.
But of course White House denies even this meeting!.

Yet YOU know of this secret meeting ?



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When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.

"Tank Fixer" wrote in message
k.net...
In article ,
on 10 Jun 2004 06:05:02 GMT,
Denyav attempted to say .....


Military Intelligence Characters of this movie were based on real
characters
moreover they and/or their relatives were interviewed by the the makers
of the
movie.

Are you basing your entire argument on the movie "Pearl Harbor" ???

Hie entire *life* seems to be based on fictional events.

Pete

"Denyav" wrote in message
...
and so you head off into the land of the lunatics.


Do you really think that you can supress the truth for forever by
resorting to
Ad Hominem attacks?

The truth is already well known, and I like insulting the insane. call it a
foible.


Or to put another way, paranoid dip****s like yourself
learn to "read"
anything that matches your delusions into being "truth".

What an "interesting" world you must inhabit, where your totally
unsupported
opinion = "truth".

The other name for that condition is "insanity".

Your nervousness is understandable and fully justified.

Nervousness that you are insane? - I find it amusing, not scary.

"Tank Fixer" wrote in message
k.net...
In article ,
on 09 Jun 2004 15:49:02 GMT,
Denyav attempted to say .....

1) They didnt


This is the whole point .according to the Government they did
not,according to
the Intelligence officers they did and they did it repeately.
On eve of Pearl Harbor attact,even during a secret White House meeting
they
discussed their Pearl Harbor specific information.
But of course White House denies even this meeting!.

Yet YOU know of this secret meeting ?

In the world of the lunatic conspiracy nut, a total lack of supporting
evidence is the most convincing evidence of all.

In the world of the lunatic conspiracy nut, a total lack of supporting
evidence is the most convincing evidence of all.

Apparently those lunatic conspirators somehow managed to convince even the
members of Congress.

This kind of accusations are usually the last line of defense for those who
want the things that were covered up,remain also covered up.

From: (Denyav)
Date: 6/11/2004 7:50 PM Central

In the world of the lunatic conspiracy nut, a total lack of supporting
evidence is the most convincing evidence of all.

Apparently those lunatic conspirators somehow managed to convince even the
members of Congress.

More likely they were trying to do a humane service to Kimmel's family.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired