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Old July 10th 03, 01:25 AM
Dave Holford
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Rich Johnson wrote:

Alan Lothian wrote:
In article , Fred J. McCall
wrote:

Uh, he's doing it on purpose, Alan. I'm afraid the fact that you are
taking it as if he is serious says much more about your misconceptions
about us than about our misconceptions about anything at all.



Alas, you are all too correct. Yet again, a foor poolish Scotsman rises
to the bait...


As a canuck of scots decent I was took as well, but on the otherhand I
don't see regime change (here anyway) coming from within for a while.

--
Rich
Enfield NS
Canada



Ah yes, but Enfield is a quiet little spot. Used to live in Grand Lake;
probably the biggest mistake of my life was leaving there for Upper
Canada. I traded 3 acres on a lake I could drink for a tiny spot of half
dead grass at three times the price, all to be near the seats of power -
my only excuse is I was too young to know better?!

But there is unrest in the land of Ontario - even the provincial
government is talking of absconding from the taxation arrangement - who
knows we might have a "Toronto tea party" yet.

Enviously
Dave
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Old July 10th 03, 02:18 AM
Fred J. McCall
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Alan Lothian wrote:

:In article , Fred J. McCall
wrote:
:
: Uh, he's doing it on purpose, Alan. I'm afraid the fact that you are
: taking it as if he is serious says much more about your misconceptions
: about us than about our misconceptions about anything at all.
:
:Alas, you are all too correct. Yet again, a foor poolish Scotsman rises
:to the bait...

Well, it's not too unreasonable to have misconceptions about us. It's
not like we don't actually have our share of idiots....


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Old July 10th 03, 03:24 AM
ZZBunker
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Dave Holford wrote in message ...
Spread Eagle wrote:



When can we expect "Operation American Freedom"?


Don't need it. But Canada, France, and Germany are cruising for big
time regime changes and the resulting liberation.

Spread Eagle



I guess we should start withdrawing our troops from Afghanistan, Ships
from the Gulf and other folks from AWACS and other command functions so
that they can come back and defend Canada? Do you really want OUR
snipers on the 'other side'?

Oh yes, and I guess we'd better get our folks off the NORAD battlestaff
as well.

We ain't got much, be we can use some of it well.

And I guess France will have to pull her troops out of the Congo where
they are trying to stop a fight that has already killed 3 million or so.
No one else seems inclined to try and clean up that mess.


The US has been trying to clean up the mess in the Congo
ever since Europe first started going there.
Which if you assholes didn't know, is one of main reasons
that the country *Liberia* exists. So don't give us any of your
revisionist history lessons about how France and the UN are
in some sort of great moral dilemma, that only they in their
great hindsight wisdom can now put the politically correct spin on.




--------------------------

See what this **** does, you turn a guy who is wholeheartedly in favour
of U.S. foreign policy and military action into a potential opponent.
Sure we need a revolution up here, but it might already be in progress;
sometime we have change the government, it just takes us longer but
wastes less blood.

Don't be an idiot, we've got Art for that.

Dave

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Old July 10th 03, 03:58 AM
Andrew Chaplin
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Dave Holford wrote:

Ah yes, but Enfield is a quiet little spot. Used to live in Grand Lake;
probably the biggest mistake of my life was leaving there for Upper
Canada. I traded 3 acres on a lake I could drink for a tiny spot of half
dead grass at three times the price, all to be near the seats of power -
my only excuse is I was too young to know better?!

But there is unrest in the land of Ontario - even the provincial
government is talking of absconding from the taxation arrangement - who
knows we might have a "Toronto tea party" yet.


It's the Eaves ministry clutching at straws in order to secure another
mandate. I doubt they have a prayer.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)
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Old July 10th 03, 04:03 AM
Yeff
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:18:12 GMT, Fred J. McCall wrote:

Well, it's not too unreasonable to have misconceptions about us. It's
not like we don't actually have our share of idiots....


Yes, but the US has *better* idiots than any other country's...

-Jeff B. (and our dads can beat up their dads)
yeff at erols dot com
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Old July 12th 03, 02:00 AM
Cecil Turner
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Rob van Riel wrote:

(Jeffrey Smidt) wrote in message om...
(Rob van Riel) wrote in message
Liberia is a different country than Congo, so I fail to see the
connection with 'cleaning up the mess in Congo'. As far as I can tell,
the disaster know as Liberia came about as a result of US racism
induced colonialism.


Rob


And what country do you come from? Seems racism and colonialism is
hardly a US invention not a soul distributor thereof.


The Netherlands, which has seen more than its fair share of dirty
deeds done in its name throughout several hundred years of colonial
history. I never meant to imply that the US is historically more (or
less) flawed than any other nation.


If all nations were indeed equal, the UN might actually work. And Libya as head of the
UNCHR wouldn't be a sad joke. (They aren't, and it is.)

The post I was replying to, however, seemed to hold up Liberia, of all
places, as a shining example of US benevolent and beneficial
interference. If that's the best the US has ever produced (and I don't
believe it is), it has a very shoddy record indeed.

The post prior implied France was praiseworthy for its most recent intervention,
ignoring the results of its past adventures. (But hopefully it at least can't do worse
than in Rwanda.) I for one would be quite happy to hold up a record of US non
interference in Africa, but it looks like we're going to embark on another road paved
with good intentions . . . (And hopefully we can't do worse than Somalia.)

rgds,
KTF
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Old July 13th 03, 02:22 PM
ZZBunker
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Dave Holford wrote in message ...
ZZBunker wrote:

Dave Holford wrote in message ...
Spread Eagle wrote:



When can we expect "Operation American Freedom"?

Don't need it. But Canada, France, and Germany are cruising for big
time regime changes and the resulting liberation.

Spread Eagle


I guess we should start withdrawing our troops from Afghanistan, Ships
from the Gulf and other folks from AWACS and other command functions so
that they can come back and defend Canada? Do you really want OUR
snipers on the 'other side'?

Oh yes, and I guess we'd better get our folks off the NORAD battlestaff
as well.

We ain't got much, be we can use some of it well.

And I guess France will have to pull her troops out of the Congo where
they are trying to stop a fight that has already killed 3 million or so.
No one else seems inclined to try and clean up that mess.


The US has been trying to clean up the mess in the Congo
ever since Europe first started going there.
Which if you assholes didn't know, is one of main reasons
that the country *Liberia* exists. So don't give us any of your
revisionist history lessons about how France and the UN are
in some sort of great moral dilemma, that only they in their
great hindsight wisdom can now put the politically correct spin on.





Sorry it took so long to reply, I only just managed to stop laughing and
pick myself up off the floor.

See the last below, which I guess you never got to, to put my posting in
context.

Thanks for the entertainment.

(I especially love that France and the UN moral dilemma stuff. Surely no
one believes that either have any morals. It's almost as good as your
apparent belief that the U.S. existed before Europe started to go to
Africa.)

Dave


I, myself, can't ever seem to stop laughing with Internet, Europeons
and Europe lovers. Since many of them apparently seem to think that
I believe that Europe *exists*.
 




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