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Old April 24th 07, 03:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Well written and thought provoking IMHO

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2064157,00.html


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Old April 24th 07, 06:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Private" wrote:
Well written and thought provoking IMHO


Sorry, no mention of piloting or aviation. If you want well written and
thought provoking, browse he

http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page
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Old April 24th 07, 08:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
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"Private" wrote:
Well written and thought provoking IMHO


Sorry, no mention of piloting or aviation. If you want well written and
thought provoking, browse he

http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page


Neat looking site, thanks for the link.

I read this group because of the (usually) intelligent and thoughtful people
who post here. IMHO, The occasional OT threads here are much better than
any on the political groups and largely lack the rudeness and ignorance. We
occasionally discuss politics in our real hangar flying and I similarly
appreciate the diversity of opinions raised here.

Happy landings,


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Old April 24th 07, 08:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:42:40 GMT, "Private" wrote
in AHoXh.123158$aG1.84634@pd7urf3no:

Well written and thought provoking IMHO

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2064157,00.html


This motion picture will change your life:

Orwell Rolls in his Grave

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMd7Oixdh2A
http://www.orwellrollsinhisgrave.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Orwell-Rolls-G.../dp/B0008237AA
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0410407/

The chilling documentary film "Orwell Rolls in His Grave" examines the
relationship between the media, corporate America, and government. In
a country where the "top 1% control 90% of the wealth", the film
argues that the media system is nothing but a "subsidiary of corporate
America." It's a stunning fact that the media received 1 billion
dollars in campaign ads for the last election. Large corporations own
the television networks, and the sheer number of stations/channels
available gives the public the "illusion of choice." Yes, there are
tons of channels to chose from, but this "ostensible diversity
conceals an actual uniformity."

"Orwell Rolls in his Grave" gives the big picture of the media system
in America and asks why some important stories are not covered by the
mainstream news and remain invisible. Other stories appear and sink
rapidly--while some stories are repeated over and over. Using
references to George Orwell's masterpiece "1984" the filmmakers
establish the idea that "1984" isn't just fiction any more. The
premise of Orwell's novel is that language is redesigned and history
rewritten to control people's thoughts. According to the filmmakers,
the American media system at best--filters the news to the populace,
and at worst--is the mouthpiece of its corporate and political
masters.

This information packed film examines the ties between media,
corporations and the government using facts and figures--as well as a
number of news stories. The film focuses on media coverage of the 2000
election, and the juicy detail of the purging of Florida voter rolls.
According to the filmmakers, when journalist Greg Palast broke the
story for the BBC, major American networks declined to explore the
story further as Jeb Bush, Governor of Florida, and naturally the
focal point of any investigation into Florida voting, debunked the
story. The filmmakers point out the outrageousness of the squashing of
a story simply because the person being investigated says it's not
true. This section of the film also gives details regarding the
Supreme Court Justices who voted to terminate the Florida recount.
It's interesting to see who voted against the recount, and that two
children of these justices then got positions in the Bush
administration. Is a quid pro quo system at work behind the
scenes--are deals made, jobs given, contracts awarded to 'friends' of
the administration? Well watch the film and decide for yourself.

The film includes interviews with a number of experts on
media--including Charles Lewis, the director of the Centre for Public
Integrity. Lewis has an engaging candor that is refreshing and
genuine. Michael Moore appears in a few brief clips from a speech he
gave, and there's also some clips from George Bush. Witty and
entertaining Vermont congressman, Bernie Sanders weighs in, and there
are also interviews with Danny Schecter, director of "Weapons of Mass
Deception", and legal expert Vincent Bugliosi. The film winds up with
information on the FCC (Michael Powell, son of Colin Powell is head of
the FCC), lobbyists, corporate watchdogs and regulators. For a
behind-the-scenes look at the structure of the American media system,
I recommend "Orwell Rolls in His Grave." The information here is at
once enlightening, chilling and downright depressing--displacedhuman

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Old April 24th 07, 08:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Watch the whole movie Orwell Rolls in his Grave here free:
http://www.freespeech.org/fscm2/cont...ontent_id=1166



On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:37:49 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote in :

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:42:40 GMT, "Private" wrote
in AHoXh.123158$aG1.84634@pd7urf3no:

Well written and thought provoking IMHO

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2064157,00.html


This motion picture will change your life:

Orwell Rolls in his Grave

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMd7Oixdh2A
http://www.orwellrollsinhisgrave.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Orwell-Rolls-G.../dp/B0008237AA
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0410407/

The chilling documentary film "Orwell Rolls in His Grave" examines the
relationship between the media, corporate America, and government. In
a country where the "top 1% control 90% of the wealth", the film
argues that the media system is nothing but a "subsidiary of corporate
America." It's a stunning fact that the media received 1 billion
dollars in campaign ads for the last election. Large corporations own
the television networks, and the sheer number of stations/channels
available gives the public the "illusion of choice." Yes, there are
tons of channels to chose from, but this "ostensible diversity
conceals an actual uniformity."

"Orwell Rolls in his Grave" gives the big picture of the media system
in America and asks why some important stories are not covered by the
mainstream news and remain invisible. Other stories appear and sink
rapidly--while some stories are repeated over and over. Using
references to George Orwell's masterpiece "1984" the filmmakers
establish the idea that "1984" isn't just fiction any more. The
premise of Orwell's novel is that language is redesigned and history
rewritten to control people's thoughts. According to the filmmakers,
the American media system at best--filters the news to the populace,
and at worst--is the mouthpiece of its corporate and political
masters.

This information packed film examines the ties between media,
corporations and the government using facts and figures--as well as a
number of news stories. The film focuses on media coverage of the 2000
election, and the juicy detail of the purging of Florida voter rolls.
According to the filmmakers, when journalist Greg Palast broke the
story for the BBC, major American networks declined to explore the
story further as Jeb Bush, Governor of Florida, and naturally the
focal point of any investigation into Florida voting, debunked the
story. The filmmakers point out the outrageousness of the squashing of
a story simply because the person being investigated says it's not
true. This section of the film also gives details regarding the
Supreme Court Justices who voted to terminate the Florida recount.
It's interesting to see who voted against the recount, and that two
children of these justices then got positions in the Bush
administration. Is a quid pro quo system at work behind the
scenes--are deals made, jobs given, contracts awarded to 'friends' of
the administration? Well watch the film and decide for yourself.

The film includes interviews with a number of experts on
media--including Charles Lewis, the director of the Centre for Public
Integrity. Lewis has an engaging candor that is refreshing and
genuine. Michael Moore appears in a few brief clips from a speech he
gave, and there's also some clips from George Bush. Witty and
entertaining Vermont congressman, Bernie Sanders weighs in, and there
are also interviews with Danny Schecter, director of "Weapons of Mass
Deception", and legal expert Vincent Bugliosi. The film winds up with
information on the FCC (Michael Powell, son of Colin Powell is head of
the FCC), lobbyists, corporate watchdogs and regulators. For a
behind-the-scenes look at the structure of the American media system,
I recommend "Orwell Rolls in His Grave." The information here is at
once enlightening, chilling and downright depressing--displacedhuman

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Old April 24th 07, 09:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Larry Dighera wrote:

The chilling documentary film "Orwell Rolls in His Grave" examines the
relationship between the media, corporate America, and government. In
a country where the "top 1% control 90% of the wealth", ... SNIP


And that is a BS number.

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesam...er/wealth.html

The Wealth Distribution
In the United States, wealth is highly concentrated in a relatively few
hands. As of 2001, the top 1% of households (the upper class) owned 33.4% of
all privately held wealth, and the next 19% (the managerial, professional,
and small business stratum) had 51%, which means that just 20% of the people
owned a remarkable 84%, leaving only 16% of the wealth for the bottom 80%
(wage and salary workers). In terms of financial wealth, the top 1% of
households had an even greater sha 39.7%. Table 1 and Figure 1 present
further details drawn from the careful work of economist Edward N. Wolff at
New York University (2004).


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Old April 24th 07, 09:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:02:09 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
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And that is a BS number.


Control != Own
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Old April 24th 07, 10:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:02:09 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
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And that is a BS number.


Control != Own


So Larry, what is your definition of "Control" that can boost the number
from 33.4% to 90%?


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Old April 25th 07, 12:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...

In a country where the "top 1% control 90% of the wealth", the film
argues that the media system is nothing but a "subsidiary of corporate
America."


Dead-on truth.

All movies, music and other entertainment is calculated based on not how
good or socially useful it is, but on how much money it makes the parent
corporation. (ie Sony.)

-chris


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Old April 25th 07, 12:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
...
Larry Dighera wrote:


And that is a BS number.


Control != Own


So Larry, what is your definition of "Control" that can boost the number
from 33.4% to 90%?


A friend of mine who is a Statistics instructor regularly dismantles figures
such as these. The US economic system is too complex to say offhand "this
percentage owns this percentage"; it depends on how you derive your data and
how it is organized. By and large, though, corporations are run by people
like Carly Fiorina and folks who get paid hundreds of millions of dollars
despite destroying companies and costing hundreds or thousands of jobs, and
the average working-class Joe Commercial Pilot, cop, truck driver, support
technician, electrician, assembly line operator...the people who ACTUALLY
MAKE THE CORPORATION RUN...make a pittance of what these people award
themselves as hiring or firing bonuses.

-c




 




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