Annual Costs - Take the Pledge

"Wiley" wrote in message
om...
Um that's nitpicking but okay, George... The annual plus repairs -
referred to by everyone as "the annual" cost over 23k.

If proper use of English and proper deriviation of issues based on legal
definitions is "nitpicking", then perhaps our education system is even more
in need of overhaul/replacement than originally thought.




"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Wiley wrote:

The
second annual cost over 23k, as the squawk list had 130 items on it.

The whole point of this thread is that your annual didn't cost anything
close to
$23,000. An annual is an *inspection*, nothing more. Your *annual* cost
perhaps
$1,000 and you spent $22,000 on repairs.

Cory, seems we have differing ideas of what constitutes neglect. That
Lance sat outside uncovered at a coastal CT airport for over 3 years
on three flat dry-rotted tires with a collapsed front strut. I swear
the owner forgot he owned an airplane. While there may be lots of
planes that sit for long periods, I think 3 years is a bit excessive.
I was concerned about engine corrosion because the engine was never
pickled, but luckily it has chrome cylinders that were in good shape.
Two of these were recently overhauled, and the internal inspection
showed no corrosion on the cam.
What was "fairly obvious" was that this was going to be an expensive
renovation. So far the panel work cost 14k, and the plane was just
painted for another 7k. Although that last annual cost a bunch (that
IS an expensive shop) the owner has never questioned anything I told
him the plane needed. After all, he hadn't paid for an annual for the
previous 3 years.
I really have no right to be ****ed about the crappy inspection the
first shop did - even considering it was MY butt strapped into the
seat. Several other posters quoted some form of the old adage "You get
what you pay for". I agree - 'nuff said.


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I don't think I'd call 3 years unloved as neglected. While it's certainly not
good for it, there are a lot of people flying planes out there that sit for long periods

If the plane truly needed $23k worth of maintainance, it should have been fairly
obvious.

It's my butt in the plane if it goes TU.

On 31 Jan 2004 11:53:49 -0800, (Wiley)
wrote:

Um that's nitpicking but okay, George... The annual plus repairs -
referred to by everyone as "the annual" cost over 23k.

That nitpicking, though, was kinda the point of the post that started
this thread. 8)

Ricky

Wiley wrote:

Um that's nitpicking but okay, George... The annual plus repairs -
referred to by everyone as "the annual" cost over 23k.

No, it's NOT nitpicking. Again. The ENTIRE POINT OF THIS THREAD is that NOBODY
should refer to that as "the annual cost".

IT ISN'T.

George Patterson
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In article , wrote:

Um that's nitpicking but okay, George... The annual plus repairs -
referred to by everyone as "the annual" cost over 23k.

No, it's NOT nitpicking. Again. The ENTIRE POINT OF THIS THREAD is that
NOBODY
should refer to that as "the annual cost".

IT ISN'T.

nobody should use geosynchronous when referring to geostationary
orbits, but they do.

nobody should use methodology unless referring to the study
of methods, but they do.

I know the difference between the annual inspection and
the work/repairs performed in conjunction with the annual
inspection, but ...

One of these days people will recognize that pilots/owners mean
something other than just the "annual inspection" when discussing
an "annual." Until then, we need to be aware of the confusion
that can result.

--
Bob Noel

Wiley wrote:
: Cory, seems we have differing ideas of what constitutes neglect. That
: Lance sat outside uncovered at a coastal CT airport for over 3 years
: on three flat dry-rotted tires with a collapsed front strut.

Fair enough.... sounds abused and neglected. I was merely stating that 3 years of
non-flying constitues niether necessary nor sufficient grounds for labeling a plane
neglected and abused.

I would venture a rule of thumb that a "flat-tire special" airplane will probably
cost more to have fixed up than it's worth. If you fix it up and do as much work on it
yourself as possible, it could go either way. On the average, it probably costs a bit
more, but at least you know everything about it on the way.

-Cory

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