If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
#1
|
|||
|
|||
David Brooks wrote: Or did you means amateur rocketry of the Saturn V class? Nope, I had just read of new (circa 2002) restrictions on the solid-fuel rocket engines we used to buy for my stepson. Glad to hear that was overhyped. George Patterson Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is "Hummmmm... That's interesting...." |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Philip Sondericker wrote in message ...
I actually found it somewhat humorous when the story mentioned the Florida kid who stole an airplane and crashed it into a Tampa skyscraper. The intent may have been to startle us with the destructive potential of GA aircraft, but the accompanying picture was a hilarious counterpoint--a shot of a massive skyscraper with just a tiny bit of damage, hardly even noticable unless you were looking for it. The narrator, of course, missed the irony. And the narrator's "They were powerless to stop it!". They had a helicopter flying alongside... they just didn't feel it was necessary to shoot down a teenage student pilot. Neither did the USAF when he flew over their base beforehand. It sure would be nice if CBS did a balanced piece showing how important GA is to such things as getting donor organs to people on time, moving packages and checks, etc. |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Okay, I just watched the story that seems to have everyone up in
arms, Here's the whole thing straight from the horse's ass... http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in593216.shtml Does anyone know this John Trissel fellow? I'd like to know what he *really* said. |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
"John Harlow"
Does anyone know this John Trissel fellow? I'd like to know what he *really* said. I don't know what he really said but after a short search on the internet I found the following websites: John Trissel / Chase Trissel are both managers at : Eagles Nest Flight Service http://www.eaglesnest.aero/ And let us not forget the pretty realestate agent, Lesley Hock. She is the one that I feel sorry for because I believe she was trying to sell the benefits of the airpark, not its shortcomings. CBS with editing turned that all around. Otherwise why would she have a website selling you on the area? http://www.lesleyhock.com/ David |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
My aircraft is based at Eagles Nest. I wasn't there when CBS was there, but I spoke with John the next day, before the story aired. Here are the facts as I know them. CBS set this up a couple weeks back, saying they were doing a story on air parks. It wasn't until they arrived that they said they were doing a story on poor security in General Aviation. Everything John said defending General Aviation was edited out. There were no pictures of the large gate out front with the usual "Pilots and Passengers Only Beyond This Point" sign. CBS told their story with voice overs, and the interview with the (ex-NTSB?) employee. This "story" isn't representative of Eagles Nest, air parks, or General Aviation. It is, unfortunately, characteristic of what we get fed as "news" nowadays by the media. It is sickening, but as long as it brings in big profits for the media outlets, this is probably what we will continue to get. Paul Missman "CFLav8r" wrote in message m... "John Harlow" Does anyone know this John Trissel fellow? I'd like to know what he *really* said. I don't know what he really said but after a short search on the internet I found the following websites: John Trissel / Chase Trissel are both managers at : Eagles Nest Flight Service http://www.eaglesnest.aero/ And let us not forget the pretty realestate agent, Lesley Hock. She is the one that I feel sorry for because I believe she was trying to sell the benefits of the airpark, not its shortcomings. CBS with editing turned that all around. Otherwise why would she have a website selling you on the area? http://www.lesleyhock.com/ David |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
"Paul Missman" wrote in message
My aircraft is based at Eagles Nest. I wasn't there when CBS was there, but I spoke with John the next day, before the story aired. Here are the facts as I know them. CBS set this up a couple weeks back, saying they were doing a story on air parks. It wasn't until they arrived that they said they were doing a story on poor security in General Aviation. Everything John said defending General Aviation was edited out. There were no pictures of the large gate out front with the usual "Pilots and Passengers Only Beyond This Point" sign. CBS told their story with voice overs, and the interview with the (ex-NTSB?) employee. This "story" isn't representative of Eagles Nest, air parks, or General Aviation. It is, unfortunately, characteristic of what we get fed as "news" nowadays by the media. It is sickening, but as long as it brings in big profits for the media outlets, this is probably what we will continue to get. Paul Missman Thanks for clearing things up Paul. I figured as much. In my past experience with the media, I have found that they are there to make their own story using real people but their own fabricated facts. David |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
"Paul Missman" wrote in
news My aircraft is based at Eagles Nest. I wasn't there when CBS was there, but I spoke with John the next day, before the story aired. Here are the facts as I know them. CBS set this up a couple weeks back, saying they were doing a story on air parks. It wasn't until they arrived that they said they were doing a story on poor security in General Aviation. Everything John said defending General Aviation was edited out. There were no pictures of the large gate out front with the usual "Pilots and Passengers Only Beyond This Point" sign. CBS told their story with voice overs, and the interview with the (ex-NTSB?) employee. This "story" isn't representative of Eagles Nest, air parks, or General Aviation. It is, unfortunately, characteristic of what we get fed as "news" nowadays by the media. It is sickening, but as long as it brings in big profits for the media outlets, this is probably what we will continue to get. Paul Missman You and or the airpart manager (John?) should contact someone at FoxNews with this, their morning show loves to air this kind of stuff to show how the other networks are not as "fair and balanced" as they are..... -- ET "A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."---- Douglas Adams |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
|
#9
|
|||
|
|||
"Paul Missman" wrote in message
news My aircraft is based at Eagles Nest. I wasn't there when CBS was there, but I spoke with John the next day, before the story aired. Here are the facts as I know them. CBS set this up a couple weeks back, saying they were doing a story on air parks. It wasn't until they arrived that they said they were doing a story on poor security in General Aviation. Everything John said defending General Aviation was edited out. There were no pictures of the large gate out front with the usual "Pilots and Passengers Only Beyond This Point" sign. CBS told their story with voice overs, and the interview with the (ex-NTSB?) employee. This "story" isn't representative of Eagles Nest, air parks, or General Aviation. It is, unfortunately, characteristic of what we get fed as "news" nowadays by the media. It is sickening, but as long as it brings in big profits for the media outlets, this is probably what we will continue to get. Paul Missman Anyone besides me a Babylon 5 junky? Season 4, episode 8 titled "The Illusion of Truth" was exactly this. Interstellare Network (ISN) did a story on the Babylon 5 station and through editing made it look like an aweful place run by a mentally ill commander and staffed by a corrupt crew. And yet that episode of a science fiction show that aired for the first time on 2-17-1997 mirrors exactly that is happening in the media today. Makes me wonder at what point can the networks be held for slander. If you say GA is safe, and CBS does its editing magic turning your meaning around to say it is a security risk, why can't you file a lawsuit against them for slander because they broadcast you on national TV after distorting your message to fit their goals? What you mean is more important than what you say. If I was interviewed and they chopped up the interview and played clips out of context in a way that changed the meaning of what I said, to me that is slander. They would be presenting a message I had not intended and showing a point of view as if it were mine when it is not. Is that not a definition of slander? |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
You mean like this?
"Anyone besides me a ...junky? ...The...Network ... station ... an aweful place run by a mentally ill ...corrupt crew. And yet that ...is happening in the media today. Makes me wonder ... If ... CBS ...is a security risk...on national TV ...? What you mean is ...what you say. If I ...chopped up the interview and played clips out of context in a way that changed the meaning ...I ... would be presenting a message I ...intended and showing ...slander..." Original post: Anyone besides me a Babylon 5 junky? Season 4, episode 8 titled "The Illusion of Truth" was exactly this. Interstellare Network (ISN) did a story on the Babylon 5 station and through editing made it look like an aweful place run by a mentally ill commander and staffed by a corrupt crew. And yet that episode of a science fiction show that aired for the first time on 2-17-1997 mirrors exactly that is happening in the media today. Makes me wonder at what point can the networks be held for slander. If you say GA is safe, and CBS does its editing magic turning your meaning around to say it is a security risk, why can't you file a lawsuit against them for slander because they broadcast you on national TV after distorting your message to fit their goals? What you mean is more important than what you say. If I was interviewed and they chopped up the interview and played clips out of context in a way that changed the meaning of what I said, to me that is slander. They would be presenting a message I had not intended and showing a point of view as if it were mine when it is not. Is that not a definition of slander? |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
American nazi pond scum, version two | bushite kills bushite | Naval Aviation | 0 | December 21st 04 10:46 PM |
Hey! What fun!! Let's let them kill ourselves!!! | [email protected] | Naval Aviation | 2 | December 17th 04 09:45 PM |
30 Jan 2004 - Today’s Military, Veteran, War and National Security News | Otis Willie | Military Aviation | 0 | January 31st 04 03:55 AM |
Uh-oh: CBS News to air anti-GA hit piece on Wed. 1/14 | Maule Driver | Owning | 65 | January 17th 04 09:58 PM |