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Old November 4th 04, 02:16 AM
Cecil Chapman
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But that was done by one of 'our own' within our own borders,,,,, 911 was
carried out by foreigners...

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Old November 4th 04, 02:19 AM
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see above.... I wasn't referring to internal wackos. 911 was the first time
we were attacked (in the continental US) by a foreign 'power'.

Your beloved Clinton. And we killed the *******. NEXT!


Yikes, a confession/threat of a former president for the secret service,,,,
better look out HOMELAND will get you.....

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Old November 4th 04, 02:29 AM
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in article ke7id.350687$MQ5.178085@attbi_s52, Jay Honeck at
wrote on 11/3/04 7:58 AM:

Now that it appears that George Bush has been re-elected with a true
majority of the popular vote (the first president to do so in 16 years), let
me be the first to extend an olive branch to those here who may be
disappointed in the results.

What has made America strong, and allowed our democracy to thrive for over
200 years, is our ability to embrace the loyal opposition on election day.
We, as pilots, may be just as divided politically as the rest of the
country, but where we differ from the common electorate is in our shared
love of aviation.

This bond, in my opinion, transcends any fleeting election disagreements,
and I, for one, will be more than happy to see all this animosity evaporate,
so that we can get back to the fun of talking about flying!

Blue skies, all!


Thanks for those words, Jay. And even though the election didn't turn out as
I might have wished, I'm not only prepared to live with the results, I find
myself actually hopeful for the future. With Republicans enjoying an
unprecedented mandate, controlling the White House, having substantial
majorities in both Houses of Congress, and even an advantage in
Governorships and state legislatures, I'm looking forward to the following:

1. Fiscal responsibility
2. Balanced budgets
3. Smaller and less intrusive government
4. Greater personal liberties
5. A strong and all-volunteer military
6. Strong alliances and respect around the world

All of the above are, of course, the bedrock philosophy of the Republican
party. Or so I've been told my whole life. I can hardly wait for all of it
to happen.

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Old November 4th 04, 02:33 AM
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Sure, whatever. Actually, it reminds me of this joke a friend sent
the other day about how War was averted between Ireland and France.
Seems that Paddy down at the Harp Pub in County Sligo, Ireland, called
Jacques Chirac, The French Prime Minister, and

Oh the heck with it. I have no heart for the partisan crap at the
moment.

Actually I've been thinking about a two-week trip we just got back
from visiting New England. Saw an old friend, made 3 new friends
including a new-found "aunt" in Gloucester, learned how the natives
pronounce Newburyport, got up to Montreal....fantastic trip. Great
Autumn colors and local characters. Wanted to rent a plane for a bit
but weather and time did not permit. God (oops, can I use his name in
this context) I really want to fly around New England. I'm gonna make
a true cross-country trip out there in a year or two in my Aircoupe.
Yep, gotta do it.

Anyway I got back to North California and to warm up the oil flew from
the Central Valley (Davis) to Truckee in the Sierra Nevadas. Great
California fall day...snow in the mountains, visibility well over 100
miles. I could see the far distant Coast Range from over Truckee.

And I was thinking, what a great time and place to live. To be a
pilot--me, Joe Schmuck--to be able to hop into my personal little
Pudhopper, and fly when and where I want. To dream, realistically,
about flying across this country. To personally know a pilot who flew
his Coupe from Barrow Alaska to Key West Florida, and another who flew
his Coupe to the four farthest airports in the continental US corners.

To live in a country where, by design, our leaders come and go,
instead of sticking around and really doing damage. What a privilege
eh? I'll bet there are millions of people around the world who would
literally give their left arm to take my place, or anybody's place in
this group.

So good on ya mate. Next week I'll bitch about Dubya's latest
screwup, but not today. Today I ordered East and West full sectional
coverage from Howie Keefe so I can start figuring out places to go and
things to see. Today, I turn off the talking heads, and think and
dream.
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Old November 4th 04, 02:46 AM
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Well said...


"Peter Duniho" wrote in
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"Icebound" wrote in message
...
On the security front, I found it interesting that the people most
likely to be affected by terrorism (the big cities)... especially
New York City, and in spite of Guiliani's. popularity... still voted
overwhelmingly AGAINST the incumbent???? (like 70%plus ... 80% in the
case of The Bronx)


That's because, as cities most likely to be affected by terrorism (and
in the case of NYC, to *have* been most affected by terrorism), the
populace actually understands the real risk versus benefit issues, and
see how they are a) not really much safer than they were before, b) not
really in all that much danger in the first place, and c) subject to
additional restrictions and scrutiny that are unwarranted.

The "selling fear to the voters" works best on people far enough
removed from the situation to not be able to sift fact from fiction.

Another factor is the move of the Republican party from being true
conservatives (which they used to be) to being basically front man for
the evangelical or fundamentilist Christians. Again, this demographic
group is not well-suited to high-density urban areas where there's a
great amount of diversity and open-mindedness.

Pete



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Old November 4th 04, 02:48 AM
Judah
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Does the WTC bombing in 93 not count?


"Cecil Chapman" wrote in
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But that was done by one of 'our own' within our own borders,,,,, 911
was carried out by foreigners...


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Old November 4th 04, 02:50 AM
Judah
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And look at what a great President Carter was!

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
nk.net:


"Newps" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Now that it appears that George Bush has been re-elected with a true
majority of the popular vote (the first president to do so in 16
years),


Jimmuh Carter was the last one to get more than 50%.


George H. W. Bush received 53.4% of the popular vote in 1988. Jimmy
Carter received 50.1% of the popular vote in 1976.



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Old November 4th 04, 03:23 AM
SR
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On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:18:35 GMT, "Cecil Chapman"
wrote:
is determined by the members of the electoral
college, not by popular vote (which would make us a democracy).


That would still make us a republic. A democracy would mean we did
not have elected representatives (such as the president) and each
issue would be decided by popular vote.
 




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