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In article , Gene
Seibel wrote: Aspartame has some very real, well-documented medical issues with it. But only for a relatively small segment of the population. True. But how do we determine if we are part of that small segment? As a pilot, I don't want to put my medical in jeprody by taking a chance on having an unexplained seizure. If you have phenylketonuria, I think you'd know already. And it doesn't cause seizures. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/disease/Phenylketo.html -- Garner R. Miller ATP/CFII/MEI Manchester, CT =USA= |
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86% of all statistics are made up on the spot, and 76.3% of people believe
them without question.... "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... "Rutger" wrote in message om... Dylan Smith wrote in message ... In article , Paul G wrote: Let's keep out of the debate over aspartame's safety. This is an exercise in getting some primary source evidence. I just want to find out if SWA does indeed have such a policy. Are there any crew out there who can confirm or deny? It sounds pretty silly on the face of it. Aspartame is consumed in vast quantities - if it was dangerous, it'd have shown up by now. Peanuts have been consumed in vast quantities for a long time too. I've *never* personally known or even heard of anyone having having any peanut allergy problems, yet we see all kinds of warnings labels on products containing peanuts these days. Aspartame metabolizes into 10% methyl alchohol, a potent neurotoxin, in the human body. Methanol, as we know, then metabolizes into formaldehyde. Nice stuff. Here's just one of thousands of references: You have fallen victim of a hoax. The 'thousands' of references are in fact not written by any of the people who are claimed as the authors. They can be traced to an individual calling herself "Nancy Markle" who invented a non-existent world conference and wrote a bunch of bogus scientific papers that were supposedly presented at the conference. It appears that this person is a Sevia dealer who was disappointed that 'her' product was not approved by the FDA and who has created a huge conspiracy theory where the FDA has conspired with Monsanto in order to conceal the truth about aspertame. You can find more than 6000 sites and studies on the internet trashing aspertame. None of the studies are real. TI: Neuropsychological and biochemical investigations in heterozygotes for phenylketonuria during ingestion of high dose aspartame (a sweetener Phenylketoneurics are the only people that have a legitimate cause to worry about aspertame, but such persons must also avoid many other more common foods such as milk, eggs, and hamburgers. From The American Academy of Pediatrics: http://www.aspartame.net/media/opinion/op_aspint.html "Although a 330 ml can of aspartame-sweetened soft drink will yield about 20 mg methanol, an equivalent volume of fruit juice produces 40 mg methanol, and an alcoholic beverage about 60-100 mg. The yield of phenylalanine is about 100 mg for a can of diet soft drink, compared with 300 mg for an egg, 500 mg for a glass of milk, and 900 mg for a large hamburger (1). Thus, the amount of phenylalanine or methanol ingested from consumption of aspartame is trivial, compared with other dietary sources. Clinical studies have shown no evidence of toxic effects and no increase in plasma concentrations of methanol, formic acid, or phenylalanine with daily consumption of 50 mg/kg aspartame (equivalent to 17 cans of diet soft drink daily for a 70 kg adult) (1, 2). The anti aspartame campaign purports to offer an explanation for illnesses that are prominent in the public eye. By targeting a manufactured chemical agent, and combining this with pseudo-science and selective reporting, the campaign makes complex issues deceptively simple. Sensational web site names (eg, aspartamekills.com) grab the browser's attention and this misinformation is also widely disseminated via chat groups and chain e-mail." This hoax has also been debunked by the FDA, the American Academy of Health and Science, and every other reputable health organization. If you have a problem with aspartame, rest assured that you have a problem with a great many other foods that people normally eat. |
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"Gene Seibel" wrote in message
om... True. But how do we determine if we are part of that small segment? What Garner said. It's one of those "if you need to ask, it doesn't apply" things. |
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C J Campbell wrote:
Phenylketoneurics are the only people that have a legitimate cause to worry about aspertame, but such persons must also avoid many other more common foods such as milk, eggs, and hamburgers. You are wrong. I was hospitalized three times, suffering from near-drowning in my own saliva, before I put two and two together and realized that it was aspartame that caused the severe excess salivation. This is an immune system response to the chemical. Once I stopped drinking diet soda (and was careful to avoid aspartame in all other forms), the problem stopped. On a side note, I can't tolerate stevia or more than about a half-can of a splenda-containing soda either. Cyclamates, however, are fine for me. There are plenty of people who have bad reactions to aspartame who are not phenylketoneurics. They simply have different symptoms. -- _Deirdre web: http://deirdre.net blog: http://deirdre.org/blog/ "Memes are a hoax! Pass it on!" |
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"Gene Seibel" wrote in message om... "Peter Duniho" wrote in message ... "Rutger" wrote in message om... Aspartame has some very real, well-documented medical issues with it. But only for a relatively small segment of the population. The issues should be used to educate potentially susceptible people, but it wouldn't make sense to base a global ban on aspartame on those issues. True. But how do we determine if we are part of that small segment? As a pilot, I don't want to put my medical in jeprody by taking a chance on having an unexplained seizure. How about an explained seizure? Better to use Splendaź (My family has made a 99% transition to this stuff and it's great). |
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Olivers wrote: One, two.......and at what number do you want the world to stop serving peanuts? Do you want the airlines to be barred from serving an inexpensive and at least filling snack beloved by many? Just how did we get from warning labels on products containing peanuts to a worldwide ban on them? George Patterson If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people he gives it to. |
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G.R. Patterson III extrapolated from data available...
Olivers wrote: One, two.......and at what number do you want the world to stop serving peanuts? Do you want the airlines to be barred from serving an inexpensive and at least filling snack beloved by many? Just how did we get from warning labels on products containing peanuts to a worldwide ban on them? A number of groups (the allergic and "assorted nutters") have called for banning peanuts on US airline flights, and several airlines have apparently decided to go along rather than risk confrontation and bad mouthing (or law suits) TMO |
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"Deirdre Saoirse Moen" wrote in message ... C J Campbell wrote: Phenylketoneurics are the only people that have a legitimate cause to worry about aspertame, but such persons must also avoid many other more common foods such as milk, eggs, and hamburgers. You are wrong. I was hospitalized three times, suffering from near-drowning in my own saliva, before I put two and two together and realized that it was aspartame that caused the severe excess salivation. This is an immune system response to the chemical. Once I stopped drinking diet soda (and was careful to avoid aspartame in all other forms), the problem stopped. On a side note, I can't tolerate stevia or more than about a half-can of a splenda-containing soda either. Cyclamates, however, are fine for me. There are plenty of people who have bad reactions to aspartame who are not phenylketoneurics. They simply have different symptoms. Yeah, even psychosomatic symptoms are real symptoms, aren't they. |
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"Olivers" wrote in message ... G.R. Patterson III extrapolated from data available... Olivers wrote: One, two.......and at what number do you want the world to stop serving peanuts? Do you want the airlines to be barred from serving an inexpensive and at least filling snack beloved by many? Just how did we get from warning labels on products containing peanuts to a worldwide ban on them? A number of groups (the allergic and "assorted nutters") have called for banning peanuts on US airline flights, and several airlines have apparently decided to go along rather than risk confrontation and bad mouthing (or law suits) TMO You are so full of clever crap Olivers you stink. As you might guess, my wife's former roommate did extensive research into the problem when she found out that her child was sick all the time because of the mere presence of peanuts in the air he breathes. Now, do you suspect that there is a minority of 5 maybe 10 people causing the airlines to rethink the fare they serve to their passengers, or do you think it's a bigger problem than your infinitiesimaly small brain can comprehend? Do you think that being contained in a metal tube that isn't recycling the air effectively that the passengers are breathing could be a problem for someone with an allergy? Finally, what the hell is wrong with you that you wouldn't give up your penny ante bag of peanuts when you know it is painful for others? Are you that full of **** that you don't care? Or are you just too dense to understand the situation? I know the afflicted could just stay home, but what harm is it to you not to get a bag of..."beloved".. peanuts to chew on while you're flying as a passenger compared to the tens of thousands of people who suffer from peanut allergies? You love your peanuts? What a jerk. The kid DIED from the allergy. He was beloved too, and he wasn't a peanut. Jim |
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C J Campbell wrote:
There are plenty of people who have bad reactions to aspartame who are not phenylketoneurics. They simply have different symptoms. Yeah, even psychosomatic symptoms are real symptoms, aren't they. You know, there are people who do have *real* symptoms that aren't psychosomatic -- and you don't have to be phenylketoneuric to have 'em. No, they're not as threatening, typically, but they can be damn annoying. -- _Deirdre web: http://deirdre.net blog: http://deirdre.org/blog/ "Memes are a hoax! Pass it on!" |
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