Seminole Lake Owner Arrested

On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 1:41:18 PM UTC-8, Santiago Lopez wrote:
"Maybe Kate would have become a glider pilot if her life hadn't been taken by an illegal criminal alien. Illegal immigrants are not good for soaring and are not good for America. Use your talents to build greatness in your own countries."

Or maybe not. Completely absurd response. Orange elephants are not good for soaring either. This is not the group or forum to vent your grievances about the politics of immigration.

This is not the forum to bring Garcia Garate or Pedro Infante as an introduction to a story about a Romanian subject.

I missed your post expressing outrage over the comment by Eric concerning Jose Ines Garcia Zarate (aka Juan Francisco Lopez Sanchez), could you repost it?

Tom

Child to mother: My brother did that too, why don't you punish him too?
I keep repeating, this is not the place to discuss immigration politics.

On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 8:53:16 PM UTC-5, Santiago Lopez wrote:
Child to mother: My brother did that too, why don't you punish him too?
I keep repeating, this is not the place to discuss immigration politics.

It is now. If America had laws as some countries do preventing the owning of real estate by non-citizens this thread about Seminole would not exist. Make Mexico great again, by keeping Mexico's native talent home.

Whatever...it's getting very convoluted going from a criminal to immigration to Romania to real estate to Mexico...
Most people here will get it. No need to say more.
Let's go back to varios, gel coats, glide ratios...

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 9:25:52 AM UTC-5, wrote:
https://www.caymancompass.com/2015/1...nian-fugitive/

Extradition approved for Romanian fugitive


By James Whittaker -

December 31, 2015
Henry, Henry,Henry, Keeping on the topic of gelcoat. Suzanne Sommers would never refer to the inventor of the Thigh-master as a midget. They are little people. You know.....Dwarfs.


The founder of the secret police service of Romania will be sent back to his home country to face jail time for corruption, a court in the Cayman Islands ruled this week.

Mihai Tanjala, a politician and entrepreneur in the former Communist country was sentenced in 2011 to five years in prison for a fraudulent business deal. He fled Romania and has been on the run ever since.

According to testimony from an Immigration officer and an Interpol agent, he arrived in the Cayman Islands from Cuba, undetected, in September. It was only when he tried to enter Jamaica after boarding a flight to Kingston on Oct. 14 that anyone noticed there was an international warrant out for his arrest.

Romanian authorities were alerted and he was sent back to Grand Cayman to face an extradition hearing.

Tanjala, who appeared before Chief Magistrate Nova Hall in a two-day hearing either side of Christmas, attempted to argue that he had been unfairly convicted in his home country for political reasons.





He claimed his life would be at risk if he was sent back to Romania and pleaded with the magistrate not to approve the extradition request.

At one point during the hearing, Tanjala suggested that if the authorities did not believe he was innocent, he could serve out his sentence in the Cayman Islands.

"If it is expensive for Cayman to keep me here, I will pay for jail."

He maintained he was not guilty of the crime for which he was convicted. "I didn't make any crime," he told the court in broken English.

"You can't extradite me for something that didn't happen. I am not a criminal, I am innocent. Please try to see the truth. If I was convicted by abuse, what do you think will happen to me in Romania?"

The magistrate, in her ruling Tuesday afternoon, said the court had no jurisdiction to make a determination on Tanjala's guilt or innocence.

She said the court was satisfied that he had been convicted in Romania and said his claims that he was victimized for political reasons could not be substantiated.

She ordered that he be handed over to Romanian authorities. Mr. Tanjala has indicated he will now file a writ of habeus corpus in the Grand Court of the Cayman Islands to officially contest his original conviction.

The court heard that he had absconded from Romania immediately after his conviction and had been a fugitive ever since. He claims he was fleeing an injustice and was attempting to reopen his case from exile in the U.S.

Tanjala was convicted of deliberately underselling property of a company, part-owned by the Romanian state, to a family member.

It was alleged that as administrator of the company IC IGMUG SA Giurgiu, he had become aware of an offer to buy the property from another firm, Zone Libere SA.

Instead of authorizing the deal, he orchestrated the sale of the asset to a company owned by his wife for a fraction of the price. That company then made the deal with Zone Libere SA at a massive profit.

During the hearing, Tanjala repeatedly challenged the evidence and cast himself as a victim of political persecution.

The 58-year-old was a member of the social democratic party that ruled Romania in the immediate aftermath of the fall of Communism and the execution of dictator Nicolae Ceausescu.

In the chaotic privatization of state assets that followed the 1989 revolution, there were numerous allegations of corrupt deals, including the appropriation of state assets and businesses at prices far below their actual value.

Mr. Tanjala, during the hearing, painted himself as a campaigner who had fought for the return of property and businesses taken from the people at the inception of the Communist regime.

He claimed to have won several legal victories in the civil courts against the Romanian state and brought corruption in the privatization process to the attention of the International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes in Washington.

The media in Romania has reported that he is actually accused of being on the other side of this process and could face potential prosecution in connection with other business deals if he is returned to his home country.

Mr. Tanjala cited this possibility himself as evidence he should not be extradited, claiming in a written submission to the court, "Currently in Romania there is an intensive media campaign on his extradition in Romania and it officially shows that he is expected to open new trials and to be sentenced to life imprisonment for indefeasible criminal offences, but which he did not commit, resulting in being sentenced for life."

Prosecutor Cheryll Richards said nothing had been presented that supported his claims that the Romanian system was not working in an appropriate way..

"There was no evidence for what he said that he was at war with the Romanian state," she said. "It appeared that he was following a legitimate process that had resulted in his favor ...

"He seems to have benefited from the very system he says is being used against him."

She said there was nothing to suggest that his crime was for anything other than the "ordinary criminal purpose of financial gain."

Magistrate Hall ordered that a warrant of committal be signed for his transfer back to Romania.

"There is nothing particularly wrong with an offshore banking account."

Yeah, but your pants get wet while using the ATM.

On Saturday, December 9, 2017 at 5:42:56 AM UTC+3, wrote:
"There is nothing particularly wrong with an offshore banking account."

Yeah, but your pants get wet while using the ATM.

Internet banking is a wonderful thing.

I have bank accounts in Russia and New Zealand. Sometimes in the past I've even had a bank account in the USA, though they are the most painful to deal with and the most primitive banking system.

For one, I am sick and tired of this character assassination of Rich Owen. I have been a part of Seminole Flying and Soaring as a part-time instructor/tow pilot starting at the Flying Seminole Ranch NE of Orlando. With the threat of Orlando's rapid growth Knut and Ingrid Kjenslie wisely purchased land in rural Lake County where they built from scratch the Seminole Lake Gliderport. The Kjenslie's sold several residential lots on the gliderport just to financially survive! Many Orlando glider pilots found SLG a place where soaring is great and the business atmosphere is more like a gliding club. The Seniors' competition has cemented SLG's reputation as a world-class soaring destination.
Yes we all had misgivings including Knut when Mihai purchased the gliderport. And yes we knew how to Google! We have been assured by reliable sources that SLG is safe from seizure.
Now this is where Rich comes in. I find him to be an honorable man who is passionate about soaring. He is a retired Navy and airline pilot and DOES NOT get paid other than expenses for being vice-president of SLG. His biggest vice, he's addicted to Jimmy Buffet concerts! His only goal ( as well as Knut's and a huge majority of the soaring community) is to keep SLG as a healthy, viable soaring destination.

Agree totally -- Amen

On Saturday, December 9, 2017 at 4:34:21 AM UTC-8, wrote:
For one, I am sick and tired of this character assassination of Rich Owen.. I have been a part of Seminole Flying and Soaring as a part-time instructor/tow pilot starting at the Flying Seminole Ranch NE of Orlando. With the threat of Orlando's rapid growth Knut and Ingrid Kjenslie wisely purchased land in rural Lake County where they built from scratch the Seminole Lake Gliderport. The Kjenslie's sold several residential lots on the gliderport just to financially survive! Many Orlando glider pilots found SLG a place where soaring is great and the business atmosphere is more like a gliding club. The Seniors' competition has cemented SLG's reputation as a world-class soaring destination.
Yes we all had misgivings including Knut when Mihai purchased the gliderport. And yes we knew how to Google! We have been assured by reliable sources that SLG is safe from seizure.
Now this is where Rich comes in. I find him to be an honorable man who is passionate about soaring. He is a retired Navy and airline pilot and DOES NOT get paid other than expenses for being vice-president of SLG. His biggest vice, he's addicted to Jimmy Buffet concerts! His only goal ( as well as Knut's and a huge majority of the soaring community) is to keep SLG as a healthy, viable soaring destination.

Sigh. NO ONE is impugning Rich's character; it is his business partner, Mihai Tanjala, whose character has already been assassinated by a jury in Romania and confirmed by a US judge. I believe (or at least I hope this is the case) that Rich has been duped by Tanjala (an expert at these sort of things), although Rich continues to defend the felon in the face of extremely damning facts.

Tom