I want to buy a plane by year-end but they're not making it easy.

Still here and reading...and waiting for a demo.



"Dude" wrote in message
...

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"T.Roger" wrote in message
. com...
I don't have my ticket yet -- and I'm really committed because I want
to
buy
my own plane to train and fly -- and I want to take advantage of the
tax
write-off about to expire at year end.

I've been at this since August.
But, hell, they're not making it easy.

No, they are not, and not just because of your problem, either. Most of
these companies that promised airplanes for delivery late this year are
putting off their customers until next year due to production and/or
certification issues -- which creates a huge tax problem for many. In
fact,
there is already talk of class action lawsuits, even while the aircraft
manufacturers are lobbying to get the government to extend the tax
benefits
to aircraft ordered, but not delivered this year. It is a huge mess and
it
affects all the manufacturers.

So even if you were able to get someone to let you demo the plane, my
guess
is you would find it impossible to take delivery this year. Even if the
dealer had a plane on the lot (I think Galvin has a nice DA-40
available),
you would probably have trouble getting financing arranged before the
end
of
the year.


To get bonus depreciation, all you have to do is order this year, and take
delivery next year. The depreciation will be in the year its put in
service.

You can get approved for financing in under 24 hours.

The challenge will be creating an LLC if you need one. I hear the
aviation
specialist attourneys are all working overtime.

Strangely, our original poster has disappeared, so either he gave up, or
got
what he wanted.

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 16:46:05 GMT, "T.Roger"
wrote:

Still here and reading...and waiting for a demo.


May I ask what your price range for a bird is?

z

Did you miss my post? I am sure I can get you a demo with a couple
manufacturers. Tell me what city you are in, and I will try.


"T.Roger" wrote in message
om...
Still here and reading...and waiting for a demo.



"Dude" wrote in message
...

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
...

"T.Roger" wrote in message
. com...
I don't have my ticket yet -- and I'm really committed because I want
to
buy
my own plane to train and fly -- and I want to take advantage of the
tax
write-off about to expire at year end.

I've been at this since August.
But, hell, they're not making it easy.

No, they are not, and not just because of your problem, either. Most of
these companies that promised airplanes for delivery late this year are
putting off their customers until next year due to production and/or
certification issues -- which creates a huge tax problem for many. In
fact,
there is already talk of class action lawsuits, even while the aircraft
manufacturers are lobbying to get the government to extend the tax
benefits
to aircraft ordered, but not delivered this year. It is a huge mess and
it
affects all the manufacturers.

So even if you were able to get someone to let you demo the plane, my
guess
is you would find it impossible to take delivery this year. Even if the
dealer had a plane on the lot (I think Galvin has a nice DA-40
available),
you would probably have trouble getting financing arranged before the
end
of
the year.


To get bonus depreciation, all you have to do is order this year, and
take
delivery next year. The depreciation will be in the year its put in
service.

You can get approved for financing in under 24 hours.

The challenge will be creating an LLC if you need one. I hear the
aviation
specialist attourneys are all working overtime.

Strangely, our original poster has disappeared, so either he gave up, or
got
what he wanted.

I don't recall the post. I'm close to (CT) HVN, OXC, BDR, DXR and (NY) HPN.


"Dude" wrote in message
...
Did you miss my post? I am sure I can get you a demo with a couple
manufacturers. Tell me what city you are in, and I will try.


"T.Roger" wrote in message
om...
Still here and reading...and waiting for a demo.



"Dude" wrote in message
...

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
...

"T.Roger" wrote in message
. com...
I don't have my ticket yet -- and I'm really committed because I
want
to
buy
my own plane to train and fly -- and I want to take advantage of the
tax
write-off about to expire at year end.

I've been at this since August.
But, hell, they're not making it easy.

No, they are not, and not just because of your problem, either. Most
of
these companies that promised airplanes for delivery late this year
are
putting off their customers until next year due to production and/or
certification issues -- which creates a huge tax problem for many. In
fact,
there is already talk of class action lawsuits, even while the
aircraft
manufacturers are lobbying to get the government to extend the tax
benefits
to aircraft ordered, but not delivered this year. It is a huge mess
and
it
affects all the manufacturers.

So even if you were able to get someone to let you demo the plane, my
guess
is you would find it impossible to take delivery this year. Even if
the
dealer had a plane on the lot (I think Galvin has a nice DA-40
available),
you would probably have trouble getting financing arranged before the
end
of
the year.


To get bonus depreciation, all you have to do is order this year, and
take
delivery next year. The depreciation will be in the year its put in
service.

You can get approved for financing in under 24 hours.

The challenge will be creating an LLC if you need one. I hear the
aviation
specialist attourneys are all working overtime.

Strangely, our original poster has disappeared, so either he gave up,
or
got
what he wanted.

+/- $250K


"zatatime" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 16:46:05 GMT, "T.Roger"
wrote:

Still here and reading...and waiting for a demo.


May I ask what your price range for a bird is?

z

"T.Roger" wrote in message
. com...
+/- $250K



I don't think that will get you into a Cirrus 22. Not a new one anyway.


May I ask what your price range for a bird is?

"T.Roger" wrote in message
. com...
I don't recall the post. I'm close to (CT) HVN, OXC, BDR, DXR and (NY)
HPN.


"Dude" wrote in message
...
Did you miss my post? I am sure I can get you a demo with a couple
manufacturers. Tell me what city you are in, and I will try.



That doesn't tell me what city you are actually in. Where you live
determines who covers you as a sales rep or distributor. No one wants to
bother with someone unless they can actually sell them a plane and make some
money.

Assuming you are in CT. Did you work with Bill Vaccaro from Cirrus? The
nice people in Duluth told me they would be happy to make sure you got a
Demo.

For Diamond, call 877-805-7071, and get Chris Moffett. Tell him you want to
get bonus depreciation on a new plane and are choosing between Cessna,
Cirrus and Diamond and you want to get a Demo on a Star.

I assume you have flown the Cessna. They now have the same cockpit as the
Diamond, so you can see that there.

If either of these guys balk, I can help you go over their heads, but I will
need your real name.

The local Cirrus rep blew me off twice. I haven't spoken with Bill Vaccaro.
I called Chris Moffett at Diamond. I'll let you know. Thanks for the lead.



"Dude" wrote in message
...

"T.Roger" wrote in message
. com...
I don't recall the post. I'm close to (CT) HVN, OXC, BDR, DXR and (NY)
HPN.


"Dude" wrote in message
...
Did you miss my post? I am sure I can get you a demo with a couple
manufacturers. Tell me what city you are in, and I will try.



That doesn't tell me what city you are actually in. Where you live
determines who covers you as a sales rep or distributor. No one wants to
bother with someone unless they can actually sell them a plane and make
some money.

Assuming you are in CT. Did you work with Bill Vaccaro from Cirrus? The
nice people in Duluth told me they would be happy to make sure you got a
Demo.

For Diamond, call 877-805-7071, and get Chris Moffett. Tell him you want
to get bonus depreciation on a new plane and are choosing between Cessna,
Cirrus and Diamond and you want to get a Demo on a Star.

I assume you have flown the Cessna. They now have the same cockpit as the
Diamond, so you can see that there.

If either of these guys balk, I can help you go over their heads, but I
will need your real name.

According to a google search of previous rec.aviation postings, you're
Mustang has the 2.8L six. It's not exactly a Cobra, even with suspension
upgrades.

Only difference is in straight-line acceleration -- which is still pretty
zippy with 200 horsepower in a car that weighs practically nothing.

A local Mustang guru told me that the lighter 6 cylinder engine in our
"Cobra clone" makes it handle better than the original, simply due to better
weight distribution.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Blew you off? Waitaminute. You call, tell them you might want to buy a
Cirrus this year, and they blow you off? Something is weird here.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Ya think?


--
Dr. Nuketopia
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