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Old November 7th 04, 05:14 PM
Chris
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Default C-182 and 5 people

This has been asked quite often, but I still didn't find a satifectory
answer. So what are the legal constrins to pack 5 people in a C-182?
I read one can do that with a fifth seatbelt. What if there are only
four seatbelts and installing a fith is not an option - can a baby sit
on one's lap legally? What's about insurance?

Thanks
Chris
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Old November 7th 04, 05:46 PM
Daniel L. Lieberman
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Chris,

If you really care about the insurance issue ask your insurance company.
They will be making the decision - not someone on Usenet. Many exotic
arguments could be made but if real money is possibly involved why
speculate?

Daniel

"Chris" wrote in message
hlink.net...
This has been asked quite often, but I still didn't find a satifectory
answer. So what are the legal constrins to pack 5 people in a C-182?
I read one can do that with a fifth seatbelt. What if there are only four
seatbelts and installing a fith is not an option - can a baby sit on one's
lap legally? What's about insurance?

Thanks
Chris



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Old November 7th 04, 06:08 PM
The Weiss Family
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"Chris" wrote in message
hlink.net...
This has been asked quite often, but I still didn't find a satifectory
answer. So what are the legal constrins to pack 5 people in a C-182?
I read one can do that with a fifth seatbelt. What if there are only four
seatbelts and installing a fith is not an option - can a baby sit on one's
lap legally? What's about insurance?

Thanks
Chris


As mentioned, ask your insurance company.
However, as a price point, I am a PP-ASEL, no instrument.
I have less than 100 hrs TT.
Full 1MM liability and $40K hull on my 6-seat (third row is actually a bench
with one belt, though) Beech Super Musketeer is $1100.
I thought that was pretty good considering my low time.

Have you investigated the child seat for C172/C182 that goes in the baggage
area?

Adam
PP-ASEL
N7966L - Beech Super III


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Old November 7th 04, 08:30 PM
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The Weiss Family wrote:
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Have you investigated the child seat for C172/C182 that goes in the
baggage area?



I generally strap kids to the wings near the root. It's cheaper and they
always land cleaner.


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Old November 8th 04, 12:20 AM
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"Schmoe" wrote in message
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The Weiss Family wrote:
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Have you investigated the child seat for C172/C182 that goes in the
baggage area?



I generally strap kids to the wings near the root. It's cheaper and they
always land cleaner.


Yeah...and you usually can't hear 'em screaming out there either.


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Old November 8th 04, 12:25 AM
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"Schmoe" wrote in message
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I generally strap kids to the wings near the root. It's cheaper and they
always land cleaner.


Can you skip the week's bath if you soap them up and fly through some rain?


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Old November 7th 04, 08:58 PM
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Chris wrote:
This has been asked quite often, but I still didn't find a satifectory
answer. So what are the legal constrins to pack 5 people in a C-182?


The only legal way is to have the child seat option in the baggage area.


I read one can do that with a fifth seatbelt.


Yes, but it has to be on the child seat in the baggage area. No legal
way to put three people in the backseat.


What if there are only
four seatbelts and installing a fith is not an option - can a baby sit
on one's lap legally?


Yes.


What's about insurance?

Get some.
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Old November 7th 04, 09:31 PM
Icebound
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"Newps" wrote in message
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Chris wrote:
This has been asked quite often, but I still didn't find a satifectory
answer. So what are the legal constrins to pack 5 people in a C-182?


The only legal way is to have the child seat option in the baggage area.


I read one can do that with a fifth seatbelt.


Yes, but it has to be on the child seat in the baggage area. No legal way
to put three people in the backseat.


and... the FAA rule says:

Current operating rules in part 91, 121, 125, and 135
require that child restraint systems used on aircraft bear two
labels: "This child restraint system conforms to all
applicable Federal motor vehicle safety standards" and
"THIS RESTRAINT IS CERTIFIED FOR USE IN
MOTOR VEHICLES AND AIRCRAFT,"



What if there are only
four seatbelts and installing a fith is not an option - can a baby sit on
one's lap legally?


Yes.



....yes if the baby is under 2 years old, which is the FAA's definition of
"infant".

What's about insurance?

Get some.



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Old November 8th 04, 12:29 AM
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In article ,
Newps wrote:



The only legal way is to have the child seat option in the baggage area.


Or have the airplane configured/STC'd for skydiving ops.

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html
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Old November 8th 04, 12:45 AM
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Dale wrote:
In article ,
Newps wrote:



The only legal way is to have the child seat option in the baggage area.



Or have the airplane configured/STC'd for skydiving ops.


And have no seats. Not what he was looking for.
 




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